World Ch. Gray Valley Talkabout Jasper

WrongsideRandy · Post by **WrongsideRandy** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:35 pm

dogrunnerone wrote:Paul Webb is one of the most kennel blind people I have ever been around. He slams everyone else's dogs and the judges that bring the others back over his. I know, because I have had face to face dealings with the man before. He was banned for a reason! Most every Rising Sun dog I have seen are beautiful, well made, hard hunting, red dogs with loose mouths, and I have seen and judged several.

But for someone to take offense to the point of bringing in a personal attack is ridiculous, and when you go to the extent of bringing in something like MattS has done, well, where I come from that is grounds for an a-- whipping.

You guys always talk about how Paul got banned.......but you seem to forget how they had to reinstate him the first time and would have the second time had he chose to hire an attorney and fight it. Him being banned means nothing, other than he has the nuts to say to your face what others can only say behind your back.

Dawgy got what he had coming........he made it personal when he attacked Paul, when Paul dont even have the internet. Seems someone got personal and off dog topic long before Matts or NYH. SO if you're going to play the blame game, put the blame where it belongs and thats on the man who brought up Pauls name(Dawgy)..........enjoy!

If you ladies cant handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

I get the feeling Paul isnt to worried about anyone whipping his as*

Randy

matts · Post by **matts** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:50 pm

thanks Randy,,im glad to see someone sees the point as we do,,i am done here,,matt

blackdirt beagles · Post by **blackdirt beagles** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:09 pm

you didnt do anything wrong matt... some people love to tell the "truth" about other people/dogs but for some reason have trouble hearing it about themselves.

flyboyc141 · Post by **flyboyc141** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:09 pm

fellows do you know paul got banned for cursing out amaster of hounds both times the second time it was his own son. sure the let him back the first time after 5yrs.every judge who didnt bring pauls dog back a winner cheated him just ask him he will tell .

WrongsideRandy · Post by **WrongsideRandy** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:49 am

flyboyc141 wrote:fellows do you know paul got banned for cursing out amaster of hounds both times the second time it was his own son. sure the let him back the first time after 5yrs.every judge who didnt bring pauls dog back a winner cheated him just ask him he will tell .

He could have been banned for cheating, now that would have been news! LMAO. 5 years for cussing.... they only gave me a 3 year ban for telling the executive board to go F... themselves, during a meeting. My Lord............he cussed lol

This isnt Ozzie and Harriet......you would have to live in a box to never hear curse words spoken.

Paul would have been better off to steal his clubs money, heck you only get a year for that and your dogs can still compete; or he could have punched someone, the last person I know who punched someone got a year and a welcome back party; or he could have been busted in a buddy judging scam...and got nothing like happened in 2002; Or he could have cussed out a couple of young ladies who was handling dogs, more than one time, only to have the WDC appoligize for his rudeness and allow him to continue like happened in 2000-2001.....

Who cares about all this anyway............

I just wanna know if Dawggy still calls this guy his "buddy"?

lmao

Randy

dawgydawg67 · Post by **dawgydawg67** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:17 am

Now Matt I understand if you were born ignorant, I can forgive that. But I believe your just plan stupid a product of your enviroment. I know you guys believe that your "mentor" is such a great person, ask him about the time(at Greene Co.) when he went after a guy with his young son because the man told Paul to shut up and quit cussing. Paul went after him with a ballbat. That's the kind of people I look up to. I would love to meet with you, Matt and /or Randy I believe we could have good conversation

Please feel free to call me to set up an appointment 740-335-6211. As far as cheating if you didn't bring him back you were cheating him.

WrongsideRandy · Post by **WrongsideRandy** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:20 am

Dawgy...... No need in getting all worked up. You threw a punch and one got threw back.......you knew better than thinking Paul would let you badmouth him without a response.

I just wanted to know if that guy is still your buddy?

Take care,
Randy

Blue Bandit · Post by **Blue Bandit** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:19 pm

hot diggity dog! that is all i have to say about that.

dawgydawg67 · Post by **dawgydawg67** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:42 pm

No Randy, I'm NOT getting worked up. I think it's kinda funny myself. And for the record my buddy did me a GREAT favor. But please call so we can get together and discuss my life. Don't be scared.

MGB · Post by **MGB** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:52 pm

I think the reply concerning dawgy's wife or ex wife, was way below the belt.It didn't have anything to do with Just Talkin Dogs.......

WrongsideRandy · Post by **WrongsideRandy** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:52 pm

dawgydawg67 wrote:No Randy, I'm NOT getting worked up. I think it's kinda funny myself. And for the record my buddy did me a GREAT favor. But please call so we can get together and discuss my life. Don't be scared.

LOL, We finally agree on something Dawgy......your "buddy" did do you a GREAT favor

Scared.....I have never met anything in my life that scared me(other than a snake), and I dont plan on starting now. I am easy to find, if you ever feel you have a need

Dawgy......your mad at the wrong guy! LMAO...........you should be calling Paul up and explaining why you started bad mouthing him on a topic about a dog that wasnt even his. And if you are huffing glue or something and think you still want to try whipping someone, maybe you should go whip them guys you bad mouth, or better yet the "buddy" who did you a favor(sounds like he deserved a whipping, favor or not)...........rather than opening up a new can.......

Now thats how I see it. End of story.

I am done with this post.

Best to you,
Randy

matts · Post by **matts** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:30 pm

my point is i dont like seening anybody bad mouthing anybody's dogs or talking s@#t about them when you know good and well they have no computer or even being computer literate,,even if it was someone other than a friend,matt

Post by **Bev** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:48 pm

Bev-- Surely this is outside the rules and boundries??? Isn't it??? Good post turned SAD!!!!!

Yes it is sad, Donk. This is the first time I've read thru the thread. I see you and I remember things, and people, and dogs at Trenton pretty much the same.

I've given my opinions on Paul's dogs in a different thread. I tried to state the positive things about them, and also say that the big nose/early mouth was in the bloodline. I've only run at Trenton when conditions were basically hot and dry (early fall) so I can't tell you how they perform in optimal conditions or dead-of-winter conditions. We've beaten Paul's hounds fair and square, and have been beaten a time or two by Paul's hounds fair and square. **to correct someone earlier who said Rocket had never been beaten on the bench, my red dog has beaten him every time they were put head to head. Sorry, couldn't pass that up, lol**

Of the 19 or so times I've given descriptions of Paul's hounds, I've tried never to bring Paul himself into the discussion. There's a good reason for that. I have witnessed first-hand actions from Paul that should have gotten him banned about 4 times more than he has been. I should have reported him for the time (I think was Lamborghini) was fidgeting a little on the bench and because he wouldn't hold perfectly still, Paul picked the dog up by the scruff and back skin and flung him across the clubhouse....IN FRONT OF EVERYONE THERE. He got to the dog and drop-kicked him back across the clubhouse the other direction. I was stacking a dog next to him when that happened, and I was so got, I couldn't even speak. I got up into his shirt outside later about abusing his dog, and told him if he came back from a cast and the dog was gone from the tie-out, he knew where to look first.

So for all of you who think Paul's temper and fiesty personality is CUTE, I have to disagree. To my knowledge, Paul's never had a kind word to say about anyone. This is nothing I haven't said to Paul personally, and we have discussed it at length (hours - multiple times) on the phone after the event. Computer or not, Paul already knows how I feel, and my feelings about him haven't changed. He has decent enough dogs to hunt with, and they don't deserve some of the criticism they get at times, but it cracks me up to see people defend him who have never met the man or had to deal with him for any length of time. You don't know the half of it, and to carry that man's filthy words onto this board and then defend them is stooping to an all-time low. To "root" for this kinda behavior is even worse. I thought Swing gave y'all a board for that kinda stuff.
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I forget what topic this thread is about. Oh yeah, Jasper. Is everyone finished, and gotten what they want said out of their systems? The topic goes back to Jasper now. If everyone is finishing talking about Jasper, then I will lock the thread and we can go on to something else.

matts · Post by **matts** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:18 pm

i have dealt with paul for over 5 years now,,yes you do have to over look some of his actions but i can still handel him,,lol,,he his definately the type that if you are asking an opinion and cant handel a straight shooter,,dont ask,,matt

Post by **Bev** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:19 pm

Anything else on Jasper? Going once...going twice...