Pine Mt Beagles wrote:LINE BREEDIND,, INBREED OR OUT SCOSSING----.I STILL BREED THE BEST AND STRONSEST HOUNDS TO GET THE SAME, IF YOU DON'T BREED TO THE BEST YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING THE BEST KINDA GO DOWN A LITTLE. I HAVE STUDIED A LOT OF WILLET RANDEL PED'S YEARS AGO,FRANK REESE AND A LOT OF BRANKO'S PED'S YOU CAN LEARN A LOT BY READING --BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF SHOE LEATHER TO REALLY KNOW WHAT A HOUND IS DOING-----------------JIM ,,I DID NOT IN NO WAY TAKE THE COMMENT AS( NEGATIVE) I UNDERSTAND FULLY' WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND TO SAY THE LEAST IT WOULD TAKE THE HOUNDS QUITE SOME TIME TO ADAPT TO THE DIFFERENT CONDITIONS' AND I DON'T KNOW IF I EVER COULD
AS YOU CAN TELL I LOVE TALKING ABOUT THE LITTLE HOUNDS AND BREEDING TO BETTER THEM,------------ON THE LINE BRED STUD QUESTION,,,,I WOULD LOOK AT ABSHIRE'S JUNIE HOUND,HE IS LINE BRED HAS THE TOOLS AND BRAINS AND IS BRED TO REPRODUCE ,JUST ONE MORE POINT A GOOD STUD IS ONLY HALF OF A BREEDING,,,,,,,,,,,GOOD LUCK AND
KEEP'EM RUNNING
PINE MT BEAGLES
I checked out your site Pine Mt , you have some nice looking dogs. I like the black and tan dog on the opening page.
I do believe that some cottontail bred dogs, regardless of where their ancestors are from have a better chance at running hare in tough conditions up here than a lot of so called hare bred dogs I have seen.
However like Jim Matuzewski wrote, I don't think you fellows are breeding for the degree of nose power necessary. I could be wrong of course, but anytime I hear claims of clean, honest, won't open till the rabbit/hare is up and running kind of mouth/nose power combo, that's almost a red flag, most certainly when the dogs in question are not being bred to run in the environment in question.
Maple Valley seems quite certain that is not the case however, and again I'll extend the invitation to come on up and prove me wrong. I could sure use the help. It was minus 35 celcius (about -31 F ) this morning here, on the stick. There was virtually no wind and I finally got up enough courage to hit the woods by 11 am. It had warmed to -27 celcius (about -16 F) Unfortunately in this old deep dry powder, I had ONE hound that could jump a hare and open on the track. She did so 3 times, and the longest run (more like swim) was just over 5 minutes. I had 4 other hounds out and never heard a peep out of any of them.
Maple Valley, there is a real nice casino and hotel in Grand Portage, MN on the other side of Mt Josephine that is minutes from the Pigeon River border crossing. I'm about a half hour drive over the border into the hills above the Slate River Valley. You could book a room there and then drive on up and then we can hopefully give these hare some exercise.
Another idea is to meet somewhere in northern Minnesota, I know a few fanciers there who would love to see some southern bred dogs run hare in these conditions. I'll have to get my pass port straightened out first though.
Let me know how you'd like to arrange it.
Incidently the only hound that gave me a glimmer of hope that a hare could be run today is an outcross
In fact I only knew the bottom half of her mothers pedigree and her sire is a not only from a different bloodline, but from a different style and type than her dam. The interesting thing is that she looks just like her mom and carries a lot of the traits that made her mom very valuable to me when it comes to running hare in winter conditions.
