Current status of Diamond Pet Foods.....

Bob Graves · Post by **Bob Graves** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:20 pm

Here is the most current e-mail I have received from Diamond Pet Foods regarding the safety of thier products.

Received from John Kampeter, Diamond Pet Foods on Fri, Jan 13th 2006

"Robert, all the foods that are now out there are safe. The current recall has been caused by human error. To avoid this again we are now testing all of our products 13 times by 3 different employees while being supervised.. This should ensure that this problem does not happen again. We are now probing our incoming corn trucks 12 times; the Department of Agriculture recommends that we probe it 4 times. On top of this we are also testing all outgoing final product for toxins before they leave our facility. I hope this helps answer your questions as well as give you some confidence in our products, again."

Post by **Aaron Bartlett** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:43 pm

How's that old saying go.........

A day late and a dollar short.

pztrailman · Post by **pztrailman** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:10 pm

I was at Tractor Supply yesterday they had a lot of Diamond, all kinds. Didn't look like they were selling to much of it. I know I am done with them.

windy hollow · Post by **windy hollow** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:25 am

Stony_Branch_Kennels wrote:How's that old saying go.........

A day late and a dollar short.

Too little too late!

crewchf · Post by **crewchf** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:01 am

Purina, IAMS and Eukanuba need to buy these complete IDIOTS OUT!!! Nothing is new in the world today for you scripture dudes out there.. Diamond does not deserve our support they need our boycotts, period!! The other feed companies've kept us safe all these years cause they've been a watchin for this FOR US!!!! You people still feedin this stuff to your hounds out there are Dumb as a Stump.......

Rich Piacentine

PS Just want to add,, I've been watching breeders and regular folks all week here in Ga on the TV news brocken hearted over this mess!!!!

bunnie harvester · Post by **bunnie harvester** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:08 am

We all make mistakes,Agway years ago had a simulair problem with Horse feed, Killed many, they went to work and made things saver and today its a TOP brand,,,,, Diamond did have a LARGE problem,they are trying to rectify this ordeal, ,MY MAIN THOUGH IS<<< HOW SAFE IS THE REST OF THE COMPANIES?????????????????

CrownPointDogSupply · Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:06 am

I have been feeding dogs all my life, as many of you have been. I have a motto, personal and business motto: You Get What You Pay For....Period!!! I have fed Eukanuba since its inception as the ONLY Premium IAMS product. Now Eukanuba has a complete line itself. I am by NO means a rich man.......but I feel the reason you will not see companies like IAMS and Purina dog foods have this(Diamond issue) happen is because they SPEND money on maintaining QUALITY CONTROL. In other words they are spending money to make sure their products are safe. More employees in the factories, more employees in research, more empoyees as On Call Veteranarians (just a phone call away for there customers and toll free call to answer questions). YES Eukanuba and Purina are more expensive......because they are spending more of their money to make sure they have a safe product for their customers, as well as providing a QUALITY product for the money spent.
I challenge ANYONE to feed 3 bags of Eukanuba thru their dogs, spend the money, and see the difference in performance, coat appearance, stool tightness(which means ALL ingredients are digested) and feed less dog food as well. It will cost you NO MORE than what your spending on the CHEAP dog food and you can sleep at night knowing you are doing the BEST for your dog(s).
Some listen some don't.....but all I can say is try it and then at least you will see the truth. Don't say "all dog foods are the same"....that is very untrue not only in ingredients but the quality control of the companies.
FINALLY it is proven....now Diamond is putting in more tests and employing more people......they should have been doing that all along......and I will bet their prices will go up because of the "quality control" additions......the choice is YOURS, keep feeding that cheap dog food.....sooner or later that OTHER cheaper dog food will have a "Diamond" issue.
Best wishes to you all......."you get what you pay for"

Crown Point Dog Supply
http://www.crownpointkennels.com
800-604-6579
518-597-3850

crewchf · Post by **crewchf** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:15 am

Crown Point,, we've been feeding Eukanuba Premium Performance for about two months now, we can't believe the change in our hounds coats alone.. And you are right, we feed less of it so the savings of the cheap feed means nothing in the long run!!!

Rich Piacentine

HALLELUJAH KENNELS · Post by **HALLELUJAH KENNELS** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:40 am

You all are right. I feed a better quality dog food for years. I moved and switched to Diamond because it was a 45 minute drive to my old supplier. I have tried overfeeding to make up for the obvious lack that I see in my dogs. It just ends up on the kennel floor. I drove the 45 minutes Saturday and bought two bags of the good stuff. No more Diamond for my dogs.

Red Briar Kennels · Post by **Red Briar Kennels** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:15 am

You know, I tend to agree with Bunnie Harvester on this. I have read the many post, been in contact with Diamond, and spoken with area dealers both large and small. I feel the bottom line is this. They made a very big mistake,...they owned up to it, I think they've tried to right the wrong, and I feel that they did everything in their power to do as much damage control as they could. Yes, this effected me and my kennel here as well. I feel fortunate that I did not lose any hounds here, and feel awful for the unfortunate ones that did. But none the less, it was a mistake. It happened. There is nothing that Diamond can go back re-do so to speak. I feel that they have re-implemented "new" systems of operation, and have created new safety checks to ensure nothing of this magnitude happens again. I feel that under the circumstances, that's all they can do.

Do you guys realize that for every product that is made, that there is usually a reason why something is improved. This is either driven by consumer needs, feedback, or yes,...mistakes. Look at all the recalls that come out every year on all our vehicles. Does that stop us from continuing to buy them? It might make you stop and think, but overall I think the public wants to believe that they are making these changes to better the products they provide. Does it sometimes come at a cost to us the consumers? I would say yes, sometimes it does. And how unfortunate for those families that saw first hand the ill-effect or ineffectiveness of airbags placement, faulty automobile wiring resulting in deadly fires, or seat belts. How many of our past relatives would still be alive today if they then had today's technology with seatbelts. This was an area that manufacturers saw that there could be improvements. But unfortunately this change did not come without a price.

Does anyone remember the Tylenol poisoning back a few years ago? And how many of you have that medication on your shelves right now? I'm sure they too had a "new" series of checks and balances to insure more public safety. They had to. But they hung in there, did what they could removing as much product from the shelves as possible and tried to recover.

I am in no way trying to dismiss or belittle the catastrophy this has caused some people. Those hounds can never be brought back I understand. I am recently reeling from the death of a very good brood bitch myself that died way too early in life. She was only 5 yrs. old. It cost me some of my breeding program as well as a fair chunk of change, not to mention the emotional side of it. But we have to look forward. Make adjustments. Maybe re-think our way of doing things. Not putting all our eggs into one basket sort of thinking.

I wonder how long the nay-sayers will continue to drag Diamond through the mud. How many more posts will we read slamming this "irresponsible, uncaring, negligent, (and the list goes on)" company, instead of getting on with life. If you choose to change brands of dog food, that's fine. So change. I would hate to see the beagling world get so hung up on this one thing (granted it's major), but I would rather see folks look ahead to the future of possibly a safer way of producing and providing dog food across the board. I wonder how many of the other dog food companies saw this as a wake up call for their own operations. It would me. Diamond however, was the unfortunate one it landed on.

I am neither an employee of or a distributor of Diamond products. I am a consumer of though, and will continue to be. I feel that neither myself or anyone else who continues with this product is as "dumb as a stump". I felt that their food was of quality, and personally my hounds did, and continues to do very well on it. Apparently there was an awful lot of other consumers out there that thought the same way. So why does one mistake in a given region make the food suddenly no good anymore? I tend to think this will make Diamond a better product honestly. There is a saying that I think alot of you have heard, it goes,..."those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". I think this really applies here. I think all of us have made our fair share of mistakes, maybe it didn't cost anyone their dogs, but how about a drivers license, a relationship, maybe a job. The folks at Diamond are human too. Let's not be too hard on them and give them a chance, let them make some changes,...hopefully the same way you were dealt with when you made yours.

- Steve

crewchf · Post by **crewchf** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:34 am

OK Steve,, I withdraw that Dumb as a Stump statement!!! It was caused by yet another breeder loseing their whole kennel this morning on the 6 O'clock news!!! I think they were from Coweta Co Ga.

Rich Piacentine

Adam M. O'Donnell · Post by **Adam M. O'Donnell** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:34 pm

I can apreciate your point Steve, but I bet you'ld be singing a different tune if all the hounds you said, have done so well on Diamond. Were all dead, and in the ground!!!!!!!! Would you be giving them a brake then?

New York Hillbilly · Post by **New York Hillbilly** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:45 pm

I have fed Diamond for several years now and have had very good results with my hounds. I agree that it is a horrible tragedy, and it was simply a fluke that at the time my hounds were off of Diamond. My son who was home from college bought several bags of Purina Hi Pro on accident and I was using it in till it was gone. DUMB LUCK or Good Fortune...I'll take either! My heart goes out to all who lost hounds or had them become ill, but I can see no reason this company or any other should be driven out of business when they have been willing to step up to the plate and take ownership of the problem. I hope they will be as responsible when it comes to making any restitution. I very likely will return to using Diamond dog food as it has always been a good feed for my hounds, but to each his own. I hate to see yet one more "American" company go under taking with it "American" jobs! Diamond dog food may feed dogs but its payrole feeds families. I hope for Diamonds sake an autopsy with lab results are required prior to any payment to anybody. I may be "Dumb as a Stump" for sticking by them..

LOL ..but there are just as many that are "Dumb Like A Fox" who will sieze this opportunity to make a buck. A bad situation to be sure! Again, my heart felt condolences to those who truely suffered the loss of their pets and companions.

Peace,
NYHillbilly

PS: My wifes new Shitzu pup has what looks like a prolasped colon right now as it strained to have a bowel movement...plenty of water.......food of choice for the pup......IAMS. Go figure....nobodys fault...and we blame no one.."S" happens..and in this case with great difficulty and dire results.

Bob Graves · Post by **Bob Graves** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:49 pm

Red Briar Kennels (Steve), You took the words right out of my mouth! After reading the "Dumb as a stump" statement earlier I thought about what I was going to post in reply, and many of the things you wrote were going to be included. I have fed Diamond for quite some time now, and my hounds have done well on it. I see no reason to switch now, as it should be safer now than ever! Sometimes bad things happen. It's the way that we prevent them from happenning again that is important. I think that diamond is doing all they can.

Bob Graves

SouthernBeagles · Post by **SouthernBeagles** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:22 pm

Stony_Branch_Kennels wrote:How's that old saying go.........

A day late and a dollar short.

This story is still unfolding!!!! I know last year this time when I called to complain about my dogs weight loss, they said it wasn't the feed!!!! BULL! I changed to Southern State's Pro Balance and right away I could see my dogs get better! RIGHT AWAY!!
I don't know what the problem at the time was but I suspect they were using the cheapest ingredients they could find and it was just going straight through my dogs literally! I was embarrassed for folks to see my dogs and those that saw them at the Georgia fun run 2005 KNOW what they looked like! Understand that I fed Diamond for 13 years before I switched!! 13 years and SWORE by the food as being the best but Diamond made ME a LIAR!!!!
I want to see HOW Diamond takes care of these folks that lost their hounds. One guy lost his whole kennel in the Carolina's except for his pups that he had to take off the dam and bottle feed. His WHOLE KENNEL!!! Years of breeding his own dogs wiped out by a bag or two of dog feed!!!! How sad!!! Diamond said they would pay the vet bills and pay for the lost dogs. How can one put a price on what this carelessness cost this man! I want to see how they handle it!