UKC Schedules 10 Performance Pack Events in First Month

Matt Glomski · Post by **Matt Glomski** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:30 am

The titles will be different and a good dog will be able to win in both. a GOOD dog can win in any hunting dog format if they are taken. Everyone needs to run what they like...i know i do....If you only have respect for a certain tiltled champion that is fine too. I am not one to say one format is better than another because there is good in every one (AKC, UKC, NKC, PKC). I have my favorites just like everyone else. A gun dog is a gun dog know matter what style. If you are taking dogs out and killing rabbits over them they are doing what they are suppose to do. It does not matter if you have titled dogs or not. I have a few in the back yard without a title that are just as good as the dogs in the back yard with titles. I have seen good dogs in every format I have ran. But lets all face it in every format most of the dogs entered are just average dogs.

back40 · Post by **back40** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:27 pm

"But lets all face it in every format most of the dogs entered are just average dogs."

Well put

houndsound · Post by **houndsound** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:53 pm

"But lets all face it in every format most of the dogs entered are just average dogs."

I take offense to that statement, my dogs are well below average, LOL!

I wasn't that offended guys, just a little advice as I have seen lots of statements like that or "this format will show real gundogs" or "this will be the best format" etc.........

Support what you like, keep quiet and away from what you don't, and please don't get pulled down to the levels of immature posters on these boards.

dk

Matt Glomski · Post by **Matt Glomski** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:40 pm

houndsound

You are right. And I hope those comments are kept to a minnimum. I will be seeing you March 18th!!!

The statement about average dogs was not to point figures at any format or dogs inparticular. I just know how very few GREAT hounds are in this world. And I have seen some GREAT dogs in every format I have ran in.

Danny King · Post by **Danny King** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:36 pm

Redtick i have a dog that i want to run against your fastest dog we will judge it by ukc rules the right rules no holes that the rabbit didnt go in and exc. then we will judge em by ARHA PP rules and you will beable to keep up with them. a dog that runs clean dont matter how fast it is you should beable to get score nomatter what unless you have a bunch of briars. hes fast and judges keep up with him. and if you read the rules for the new devision the judge might not stay with the dogs the entier time. im not positive matt will you explain some of the rules.

Danny King

Redtick · Post by **Redtick** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:10 pm

I have some beagles that run some rabbits in places no judge could ever come close to keeping up with the dogs, let alone scoring them correctly according to the PP rules. So, the judge could then pick out which dog he likes, regardless of what the dogs actually did. If it is his buddy's dog, all the better.
Watch my video clip on the Just Talking board. I scored the dogs according to UKC's Hunting Beagle rules on my third post on the thread.

swing · Post by **swing** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:41 pm

Your dumber than a box of rocks.
Why dont you post that clip on the UKC board and show them how they are suppose to score. LOL
O yeah I forgot you can't. LMAO
You MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!

tommyg · Post by **tommyg** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:27 pm

Redtick wrote:I have some beagles that run some rabbits in places no judge could ever come close to keeping up with the dogs, let alone scoring them correctly according to the PP rules. So, the judge could then pick out which dog he likes, regardless of what the dogs actually did. If it is his buddy's dog, all the better.
Watch my video clip on the Just Talking board. I scored the dogs according to UKC's Hunting Beagle rules on my third post on the thread.

Judgeing is not exact,thats why its called judgeing. Even in the H&H format which I run alot there is mistakes. The best dog don't always win,H&H has alot to do with the handler not makeing mistakes. If you get buddy judged take it on the chin and go back the next week. I watched your clip and will tell you there are faster and better hounds here or any where you go,there are faster and better than mine--you have to accept that before you can have any fun trialing. Keep blowing your hounds horn and not proveing them to these guys don't help your reputation a bit.You never know you may find something you like better or improve your line.

Redtick · Post by **Redtick** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:01 am

My dogs are not perfect and I am not either. They do not win every time. They did do a good job on that rabbit.

swing · Post by **swing** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:07 am

My dogs are not perfect and I am not either. They do not win every time.

I bet that hurt

Houston we are making progress!!!!!!!!!

Redtick · Post by **Redtick** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:41 am

I have never said either I or my dogs are perfect. My dogs lead the pack sometimes and I could be out in front on some issues at times.

big lake beagles · Post by **big lake beagles** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:47 am

Hey Terry got me computer fix. New email address is benefield@bscn.com
I am also ready to Schudle a hunt. Need you or someone to call me so I can get the ball rolling. Thank Shawn Benefield

dannyboone · Post by **dannyboone** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:51 pm

I believe that this new format is going to be great! I do believe that you now will get dogs that are able to run there own rabbits because they will have to prove it and these dogs that make champion and can't run there own rabbit will not make it! BYE BYE to me too dogs thats the ones that depend on everybody else to get the rabbit up for them! THIS format will make your dog prove that it can get a rabbit up and circle it by itself before it can become a champion! Then you can say you have a true champion where it means something!

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:25 pm

Here it goes now....Somebody with a new ID trying to start trouble before the format even gets going. Please ignore people like this. The only time for new ID's is when someone is scared they will be punished for telling the TRUTH. Lets all just make the effort to have fun and run this format fair. Thanks, Paul

houndsound · Post by **houndsound** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:49 pm

dannyboone wrote:I believe that this new format is going to be great! I do believe that you now will get dogs that are able to run there own rabbits because they will have to prove it and these dogs that make champion and can't run there own rabbit will not make it! BYE BYE to me too dogs thats the ones that depend on everybody else to get the rabbit up for them! THIS format will make your dog prove that it can get a rabbit up and circle it by itself before it can become a champion! Then you can say you have a true champion where it means something!

I thought the current UKC HH format said something about a dog not hunting........I also thought you could get points for jumping a rabbit...... maybe I'm wrong???????

Are there me to dogs in the current UKC, yes of course, and I bet there are some in any format.

The idea that as you said ,"I do believe that you now will get dogs that are able to run there own rabbits because they will have to prove it and these dogs that make champion and can't run there own rabbit will not make it" is just silly. Any format won't and can't "get us dogs that will do this or that" Are these superior hounds in hidding currently? And when the new format gets here POOF, we'll just get em all the sudden. Formats don't produce dogs. Formats judge and award different aspects of what dogs do.

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