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I will try giving him more to eat. I will try to get some of that canned food for him also. Thanks for the help i will try and let you know how he does.

Another thing is that he is starting to poop less with the purina. I think the diamond was going right through him.

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WELL, now you never said nothing about diamond,,,,,,i will never spend another dime on diamond food,,,,,,i had 3 dogs loose a bunch of weight from that junk,,,,,,,now i feed regular purina and my dogs are fat and slick,,,,,,,,every dog i have seen on diamond got thin and the stool was always soft and there was a bunch of it,,,,,,,just my opinion,,,,,,,

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:D :D :D :D
no problem!
"pooping" less is a good thing for putting on weight, just make sure he is still deficating.
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ringtail wrote:WELL, now you never said nothing about diamond,,,,,,i will never spend another dime on diamond food,,,,,,i had 3 dogs loose a bunch of weight from that junk,,,,,,,now i feed regular purina and my dogs are fat and slick,,,,,,,,every dog i have seen on diamond got thin and the stool was always soft and there was a bunch of it,,,,,,,just my opinion,,,,,,,
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i wouldnt feed him anymore of that,,,,,find a good can food that is not all fillers and some good food,,,,,id even try some high pro puppy food,,,,,,

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What wood the puppy food do?? I am looking for places to get that "prairie" canned food. I will try to get some tommrow or sometime this weekend. What should the protein/fat content be for him if he is going to put more weight on??

Thanks for the help

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puppy food is high in protien and fat , the puppy food i feed is 30/20

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ringtail wrote:puppy food is high in protien and fat , the puppy food i feed is 30/20
ok ringtail i will try and get some.

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When you convert the protein and fat in the prarie canned food to a dry matter (ie:like dry kibble) it equates to 36% protein and 28% fat. So by adding to your dry kibble oz per oz, serving per serving, you are really boosting the calorie intake. Fat is worth 9kcals per gram and protein is worth 4kcals per gram and carbohydrates are worth 4kcals per gram. You could use the puppy food in addition to a good canned food. WOW, talk about beefing them up!!!
When you are looking at the food lables (especially the canned foods) the protein level can be decieving. We don't take into consideration that the food is wet which makes it appear there is much less protein. If you want to convert the % of a wet food to dry matter (to get a true protein content), you can do the following:
Protein % (100/the remainder of what left after the moisture)
For example:
the prarie canned food is 9% protein and 75% moisture. The equation would look like this
9(100/25) = 36
first you have to divide 100 by 25 then multiply the sum by 9
I know this sounds technical and it is sort of, but once you do it a couple of times it really pretty easy.
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Im going to get the prarie canned food tommrow and some good puppy food. That should make him fatter.

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[quote="Huntin54"]Thanks guys

I changed his food to purina one lamb and rice. I won't be able to tell the difference for a while since i just changed it.

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Beagled1 wrote:
Huntin54 wrote:Thanks guys

I changed his food to purina one lamb and rice. I won't be able to tell the difference for a while since i just changed it.
Sorry about the last post - I clicked send too soon :oops:
I just started feeding that very food one month ago and chose it because I had one hound that sorely needed to gain weight. I chose the Purina ONE L&R because it has meat based protein and is high in calories. The hound that needed to gain is already putting weight on and my retired bluetick is shedding excess pounds. I'm really happy with it so far and was going to recommend it to you!
You really should see a difference. I noticed that my hounds can't be on foods low in calories no matter what the protein or fat is. THey start to get ribs showing and I really don't like that. I want to keep them thin but I want some fat over the ribs, especially in winter.

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Beagled1,

I wasn't aware that Purina One listed their calories on the label :???:

Most foods don't list the kcals, but it is fairly easy to figure (roughly) how many kcals any dog food contains.
Protein and carbohydrates each provide 4 kcals per gram and fat provides 9 kcals per gram. This would mean that a food with a higher fat content would contain more kcals per gram than a food that is lower in fat since fat is providing more than half of the kcals. High protein foods don't offer the high kcals, but do build lean muscle which is critical in "bulking up" a "ribby" dog. No matter what the source of protein and fats, they all provide the same kcals (respectively), but the different sources have their own offerings nutritionally.
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