Satsuma vs patch

[snellingsbeagles]

both lemon and white both fast anyone have experience with both

[Shady Grove Beagles]

The first time I met Mel Faust he was showing me around his kennels at his place in Amite,Louisiana and we were talking about his Satsuma hounds.
I innocently asked if they were Patch breeding [because of their coloring].Mel gave me a funny look and said"the only thing my hounds and Patch hounds have in common IS the color !"
Mel is not a fan.

[Tim G]

Yes I have owned both satsuma for me

[snellingsbeagles]

are Satsuma cleaner or something? any out standing differences

[Tim G]

The patch dogs I have owned and seen around Mississippi were better deer dogs than rabbit dogs but that's just my experience I know they are some good patch dogs out there. But clean depends on what u like imo.the slower a dog runs the cleaner it is then again just my opinion satsumas can roll on pretty good

[JUDE]

Mine dont have any Patch or Satsuma and they are red n white...If you are referring to color several bloodlines have this color.

[Newt]

I remember going to a Small Pack Option Trail in North Alabama, back in the late 80s early 90s. I remember a lemon and white Satsuma male entered in the thirteen inch class. I entered a male, Hickory Ridge Andy, that was Northwoods bred. He had placed third in a LPH Trial at Upper Hudson the year prior.
As the pack was running there was a long check and when it was solved the Satsuma dog jumped another rabbit. I remember paying attention because that was the first Satsuma dog that I had seen. I was impressed. I ilstened as he circled his rabbit almost check free, but got no score. I remember Boggy Hollow Buddie won the Trial and Andy got NBQ. I often thought if Satsuma hadn't split, Andy probably wouldn't have gotten NBQ.

To me the trial was interesting because it showed that LPH style hounds that comped on hare could compete, back then, in Deep South SPO Trials.

[Tim G]

Yea your right for back then now you will get picked up before your snap gets closed good lol

[LR Patch]

1st I own Patch hounds .... but you want ever here me say their the best hounds bred ever . Theirs good and bad in all beagle strains run what you like , preferable .... well for me the less faults the better . But always remember they all have fault !
Lemon & White does not make a patch hound , a lot are but they are also tri-color , liver and a wide range of tan , brown varance I guess of lemon . I don't know Mel or ever saw a Satsuma hound that I know to have been one run . Been looking through all my pedigree's cause seems I saw one of some Satsuma dogs the had some patch blood in them .... thinking it was a Patch hound called Poision Pete Patch , maybe wrong and maybe Mel didn't make that cross ... I have no ideal . Like the Patch I've heard good and bad too .

[Newt]

I believe the Satsuma line was started from a Green Mountain, the late Clarence Ward's Kennel. Maybe Green Mountain Jericho.

[Tim G]

That's right newt and Champlain Bucky could be wrong on Bucky and I bet the dog in Alabama that day was satsuma did Mel said he was the best beagle ever to live in fact he has him buried in front of his kennel with a tomb stone that's says the same thing

[Tim G]

Meant to say satsuma sid