Gearing Down Or Cold Trailing ?

[gwyoung]

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[warddog]

In reading gwyoungs post I gathered he was talking to an ole coon hunter that had a son well studied in THE SCIENCE behind the olfactory sense. Seems many are content to come to conclusions and give opinion rather than put together how it all works, even for people. The science is clear that smelling is a matter of specific groups of molecules being vaporized AND the smeller having the genetic composition to be able to differentiate among them. Just as people can see not all can see individual colors vividly or if at all so maybe that holds true with smells as well, This is further proven by how man can manufacture SMELLS by concocting a mixture of the very molecules that provide a specific odor. That odor is kind of like gasoline in a can in that it will NOT lite and in fact put out a match thrown into it UNLESS the vapor is exposed to it. I can NOT give a reason why animals as well as people smell differently other than to say that the only thing it has to do with brains is that they MUST have receptors that pick up on a specific molecular group and send that notice to the brain. I suspect that those receptors very as much as every individual does with anything else and genetics has more to do with it than brains. Olfactory receptors unlike other sensory receptors are replaced all the time so who knows which ones are there in the first place, which ones are nearly gone, which ones are replaced and if they have or replaced with the same intensity to determine these molecular groupings. I also suspect that these olfactory receptors do very with age so they come and go as does every other sense. Once all of them are gone they are gone except the olfactory sense but I suppose the receptors or the individual's brain itself becomes aged so as to not be able to differentiate as clearly as they once could. This seem to be proven in how I have had a change in things I like to eat from when I did not like them and vise versa as they say taste is mostly derived from smell.

[Hare Chaser]

Even the educated experts with a Ph.D. in "scentology" don't understand all they know about it!

Here's what I know from experience about a cold nosed hare hound:

1.) The majority of them WILL cold trail. Some more than others.
2.) Not all of them babble like fools that can't produce their game. If people that have the babbling kind would quit breeding them there would be less of them.
3.) A good cold trailing hare hound will expand your hunting areas.
4.) A good cold trailing hare hound is less likely to bother off game in areas where hare are few.
5.) If you live and hunt in any of the states that border Canada you'll likely come to appreciate the value of a good cold nosed hare hound if you like to hunt much from Dec. thru March.
6.) A good cold nosed hare hound will teach you things about hare you likely wouldn't know otherwise.
7.) Most people don't know what a GOOD COLD NOSED HAREHOUND is because they've never had the pleasure of owning one or hunting with one day after day in winters worst weather.

P.S. No need for all the name calling and disrespectful talk that happens on this board either. It serves no purpose.

[Budd]

7.) Most people don't know what a GOOD COLD NOSED HAREHOUND is because they've never had the pleasure of owning one or hunting with one day after day in winters worst weather.

And honestly most people DON"T need one....I will take all I can get. I have only owned one SNOW HOUND, a few that are close enough. The one I had was Shooter Page 1, don't care how cold it was or how bad the snow condition's were she had one thing on her mind and that was running hare and she could. I just wish she could have produced her likeness, second generation down from her was better but still not her.

[gwyoung]

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[adirondackjoe]

Hey hare chaser. I read your post one through seven. Well done sir. I've been running hares over 45 years. I could not have said it better myself.

[likeemfast]

Nose is the hardest thing to breed into a hound. ( I don't get a big nosed hound very often) Speed is the easiest thing

Well thanks for this little gem of wisdom, laughed so hard i spit out my coffee, no-one would of ever know this if you didnt drop this tidbit of info for us. i think that little jewell of information has probably changed how houndsmen view things the world over, entire books will probably have to be re-written to include this new and previously unheard of information.What a gem of wisdom from the Knight of Beagledom himself, Sir GWyoung. Kudos to you.

And your also right again, my comprehension was off, even tho it was off i managed to sum it up as you did in your story.

When you freeze the molecules all of them do not have the same properties if frozen some began to separate and the scent is not the same without that particular molecule, some hounds will smell it and will naturally bark as it is ' close enough" Others will obviously smell it and not bark because in it's slightly altered state doesn't trigger a bark but it is close enough to compell the hound to follow. Doesn't mean one smells it any better than the other.

likeem, Aren't you curious as to how your hound knows the rabbit isn't up. Think about it. He won't bark until it's jumped when hitting a track, how does he know? How is it possible, Solve this, You know it happens, your dog does it, the track has to be telling him something there is nowhere else for him to get the info. Solve this for 'em. How does he know?

Obviously what he smells that sends the signal to his brain tells him nothing should be coming outta his mouth, that's the easy theory.

Now if you want to go on about olfactory senses and structured molecules of scent go right ahead, the floor is yours.

[gwyoung]

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[gwyoung]

What kind of dog food you all feed?

[likeemfast]

Well GW, i wont take the time to go over all your reading comprehension issues tonite, i imagine your well on your way to polishing off the 2nd 6-pack. I will just close with this, your right again, i know nuthin bout hounds, feedin 4 poor ole pot lickers.

I will say this tho, 2 jabs back to back at me means my previous post must of struck a nerve, im sorry your hurt.

One thing my hounds have taught me tho, is when hurt, they lick their wounds, i can only imagine right now your just slobbering all over yourself.

Good night Sir Knight

[warddog]

What kind of dog food you all feed?

[gwyoung]

wardog, I think what some have been looking for has been right in font of them all along, Dog food. If I remember correctly you may have even touched on that subject before. It seems as if the knowledgeable never put out anything new. Actually they have been giving us answers all along. It is ridiculous to put forth any theory or idea that isn't based on dog food. Dog over-running 75 yards on the check and can't compete at the trials, try the orange bag. Dog NOT over-running 75 yards at the check and can't compete at the trials, try the lamb and rice formula. backtracking? have you tried Victor, if that is what you are currently feeding try pride. Dog cold trailing , try raw! You may have to try several different brands or a mixture of formulas/ brands, but I am sure that dog food is the solution. I think you may be of the opinion that all dog foods are the same, it can't be ! Too many solutions provided by dog food. That is why this board is known as the dog food board, Which is a good thing.

[outrider66]

Hare Chaser,Budd & others You guys got any experience with the Buckshot Mr Bill blood ??? I just got a dog with a good bit of his blood in it