back tracking

boomarang · Post by **boomarang** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:40 pm

bunnyjumper thanks .... what do some of you other guys think

Chuck Terry · Post by **Chuck Terry** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:40 pm

I would not give up on her yet. HOWEVER, I had one that would run the line to the first hard check and then run it back to the bed (set) and bawl her head off like she thought the rabbit (or another?) was still there. I wrote her off as short on brains after she did this several times. I gave her to a local deer processor who hoped to train her to recovery lost deer. He was very aware of why I gave him to her. I have not heard from her since. I wonder if she trailed the deer back to where it was shot?

ACOMEAU · Post by **ACOMEAU** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:19 pm

A lot more dogs back track than you think or want to think. How many times have the dogs jumped rabbits pounded them for 100 yards, then pick pick, to nothing. You figure its a "bad scent day" and say to yourself, "how can they run it that hard at first then suddely they can't smell it for beans". Then you wander around and a few minutes later or evn an hour later they jump another one and pound the snot out of em. 9 out of 10 times they backtracked the first time. Most dogs will back track on a hot one, the smart ones will figure it out quick. Don't give up on your puppy, sometimes the dogs with the best noses will backtrack some. Pick her up carry her back to the spot of jump and point her in the right direction. If she is back tracking every time it has a loss, then its a little more serious and some never get over it.

kjohns · Post by **kjohns** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:23 pm

Your pup is just goofing up. Sounds like you haven't had it out very many times yet. So the fact that it is even recognizing the scent and opening up is good. If you can, try taking it out with an older dog that runs good. It might catch on. If not, just keep taking it out and putting it in rabbits. If you absolutely know 100% sure its back tracking, correct it. Make sure you are positive its backtracking! I've seen rabbits pull a whole lot of tricks. And I've had them pull things that what I saw happen, isn't what happened. I believe my dog's noses before my own eyes. All said and done if the dog doesn't straighten out, get rid of it. It will only screw up any other dogs you get. But give it plenty of chances. It takes a lot of time to have a good trustworthy rabbit dog.

upshurbeagler · Post by **upshurbeagler** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:57 pm

Most of the time a dog will outgrow back tracking. Young dogs sometimes aren't smart enough to realize what they are doing is wrong. When you are sure that she is back tracking try to turn her around as quickly as you can. If the rabbit has holed, catch her and take her on to look for another one. She should be soloed as much as possible because the pressure of competing hounds will cause her to revert back to back tracking. Most will outgrow this by 2 years old, but that depends on how much running experience they get. Good luck with her.
Ron

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:09 pm

Sounds to me like the Pup is barely started. Lots of good pups will back-track a little at first.

mybeagles · Post by **mybeagles** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:17 pm

I am making me a long list as a result of this post of guys I will never buy a pup from, or breed to their stud dog!

Incahoots · Post by **Incahoots** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:49 pm

Good, hate to see a good pup ruined.

kjohns · Post by **kjohns** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:49 pm

I hope I'm on your list. I wouldn't want one of my pups given up on so easily.

crewchf · Post by **crewchf** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:56 pm

Case of beer for that one Kjohns,, couldn't agree with you more!!!!

Rich Piacentine

bunnyjumper · Post by **bunnyjumper** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:45 pm

Your list for the perfect, mistake free pup will be very short!

Steve C. · Post by **Steve C.** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:10 pm

Most beaglers have some trouble differentiating between faults and mistakes. Certainly we forgive mistakes by pups and young dogs but at the same time we should not become kennel blind by ignoring serious faults such as quitting and backtracking. The experience level of a pup must be considered when making judgements on a hound's shortcomings but I would be keeping a close eye on this as the pup matures. These problems tend to get worse rather than better, and while I'd never suggest someone put the dog down, I hope it would not be considered breeding stock even if the dog only backtracks occasionally on bad conditions. If we are considering breeding, we have a duty to the breed to be VERY critical of those specimens chosen to continue the breed. Few measure up; and that applies just as much to my kennel as the next guy.

boomarang · Post by **boomarang** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:31 pm

guys yhanks for all the advice since this pup is BARLEY started i am going to run her with an older dog hope this helps again THANK ALL OF YOU boomarang