no Barkin on covered track

[snellingsbeagles]

Have a dog that won't bark in a check if it's not her that picks it up or On a jump if it's Not hers and is kind of tight mouth if it's bad scenting conditions or she isn't in front but can still smoke one just wondering yalls opinion
Doesn't hurt that she almost catches them ha

[gwyoung]

snellingsbeagles, Wanted to be clear , and I think you were fairly clear just want to be positive. Is what you are saying is that the Hound won't bark going OUT of the check behind the other dogs, but she will go with them and once she gets the front she will then bark sufficiently, as soon as she loses the front no barking until she gets back in front ? She won't bark on the other hounds jump until she gets to the front and then she will bark sufficiently? If scent is bad she won't bark much even when she is in front? but if she is in front on good scent she will bark a suitable amount? Let me ask you this does she bark just fine when run solo? And when she does get to the front after losing it on a check or coming to another hound's jump HOW does she get to the front, this is important, does she just run around them to get there , I suspect she does. Often a hound has more than one fault and that is not considered when trying to give a diagnosis, this makes it difficult when trying to correct the problems as any correction to one can actually make the other one worse if it is not recognized or considered. I suspect your hound has two faults working together here and I would not feel comfortable diagnosing them or telling you how they may be corrected as I do not have any ARHA or UKC titles, they are the diploma of houndsmen-ship, and I don't want to be caught practicing "medicine" without a license! But I have still helped you I think it is laid it out pretty good for some to be able to give an answer! Good luck!

[snellingsbeagles]

No she Will bark just is tight mouthed and she earns the front back doesn't cut or slash was just wondering if anyone else has one that doesn't like a covered track if they are driving it she will holler like no other

[WELLS WOODS]

Hounds should give plenty of tongue on the drives whether they are leading , middle or back of the pack. Sometimes it's hard to see in a pack if a dog runs mute when it's not in front, but a good judge will see it eventually. I've seen some dogs run beside the pack on the drives looking to grab the turn with no regard to running the line the pack is on. This is unacceptable.
I would take all the pressure off of your hound for a while & run it with two or three hounds that it can beat & pray that it starts giving more mouth. I don't think soloing is the answer; just my opinion.
I have seen the opposite work once though; ran it with a dog that it couldn't out foot & it finally accepted it's place behind it & started barking. Confused yet? Good luck.

[snellingsbeagles]

Well I only hunt no trialing I'm just trying to learn all I can you she is my best dog right now though (most driving power)

[WEIR CREEK BEAGLER]

put a bullet to its head would be best a dog has to bark bottom line tight mouth is unacceptable

[S.R.Patch]

It would be premature to evaluate the hound without knowing how old the hound is or how much experience running she's had. Many young hounds are intimidated by older or numerous hounds when first packing. She may finish out to be a very honest mouth hound.
I've watched some of these videos on these barkie-barkie type hounds, I've tried really hard, but about the longest I can take it is about the 3 minute mark and I have to shut it off. Some of these hounds just never shut up whether they're moving forward or not. I know some really like it and they feel they're leaving no "holes" in the line but I can't stand to listen it all the racket and the hound not be getting on over the hill. To each his own I guess.
I won't say "put a bullet to the head" of these barkie-barkie types, some people really like them. So you'll just have to over look the ignorance of others...

[WELLS WOODS]

I agree with Patch. If it's a young or inexpierenced hound, it may be fine after it matures a little. Whether trialing or hunting, I would still want my hounds to run correctly & use their mouth right; not only be quiet when their supposed to, but bark when their supposed to as well. Good luck with her; sounds like she has potential; don't give up too soon.

[deerhost]

Run her by her self and see what she does. That is the only way to know what she is doing. She maybe "ME TOOING"". Meaning she is not doing much work but will bark with the other dogs when they get rolling. Or at times i've seen very young dogs not open untill the trail gets hot. A tight mouth dog will pick up and start a rabbit and may go 50-60- yards and not open up and the eventually open. Same thing in a check. I've had one that would half circle a rabbit before opening up. Still run her solo just too see what she is doing on her own and evaluate her. If you were trialing it would be the kiss of death because other dogs would out claim her. But if your just hunting it is not such a big deal if she is just a little tight....DH

[snellingsbeagles]

She's too fast for spo she would get picked up and there are no little pack or large pack or anything extreme upper medium - fast speed trial club within 2-3 hours of the house so pleasure running in the off season and gun hunting during season it is

[S.R.Patch]

One time I was at Leroy Miller's in Pa. and his son Dale and I took out Ranger and Sam Patch for a run. Ranger was a young 1yr 1/2 old and Sam was a big 6 yr old male with big booming mouth.We went to a cattail swamp surrounded by hardwood ridge and cast the hounds. They searched independently, Ranger going off left handed and Sam pushing straight forward through the cattails. Ranger jumped his rabbit first and came driving down through the middle of the cattail giving good mouth, then Sam doubling back to intercept him. Ranger was giving good mouth on his drive until Sam and his booming mouth joined in at mid-court, then Ranger fell silent. When they came out of the cattails up into the hardwood, Ranger was right behind Sam trailing away but not giving tongue and Dale said, "See, he don't speak since I started bracing him with Sam the last week, but you can see he's got scent." I told him, we know he can jump and run a rabbit with good mouth, he's just gotta get comfortable running with Sam and gain confidence to speak on line with him. Dogs are dogs and the social ranking can be intimidating, even on the line of a rabbit to some. jmho

[Alabama John]

I learned to shut my mouth when an elder was talking, especially when the elder was teaching me something, when I was less than 5 years old.
Good manners are hard to come by in young folks today, but, maybe is still being followed in some dogs.

[deerhost]

snell, How could she be your best dog, She does not claim a check or open up. What exactly is she doing to make her the best dog. Driving Power?? What are talking about. The dog will drive the rabbit after all the dogs are opening up on the trail. Im confused. Help me out tell what she does well. Let us know how old she is and how much ground time she has. Does she run the rabbit on her own or does she run to the front and drive once the other dogs line out the rabbit for her??

[snellingsbeagles]

She will claim a check and opens well but is just a little tight mouthed sometimes

I call it driving power when one run its without letting the rabbit check them very hard or for very long just the ability to keep the
bunny up

I may have misdirected some early on in the post she doesn't run mute just doesn't hammer it like some and is what I call hot nosed