CULL'S

[rabbitatfarm]

I had a female with "cherry eye" but it didn't show up until she was well into breeding age. Don't know if the dam had it. I had one litter but she was a horrible or too protective mother. She smothered all but one pup, even with protection boards, and he had medical issues by the time he was three or four. Had him put down. Never bred her again. I agree, what you keep is a personal choice. I prefer tri-color but I have a red and white, a black and white with just touches of tan, and a female that is a blanket back. I'm willing to accept mouthy to get hunt/nose on my male. They all just turned two. They might all be culls for someone else.

[Ole Mule]

I have always believed that cherry eye was hereditary and I will not breed a dog that has it. Sometimes it self corrects and sometimes it needs surgery. Just my 2cents.

[Rcoff]

I guess it depends on the dictionary you use what definition of cull is. My dictionary on line says that a cull used as a verb 1. To choose; select; pick. 2. To gather the choice things or parts from. 3. To collect; gather; pluck. As a noun: 4. Act of culling. 5. Something culled, especially something picked out and put aside as inferior. No matter how you use the word cull, it is removing from your pack because it does not please you; that does not mean that that dog or pup will not please someone else. There may be other people out there who would be tickeled to get the dog that you don't like for what ever reason. Some don't like a lot of mouth (me either) but some guys like dogs that babble all over the place and breed for it. Another example: this week I met a group of guys that run brace dogs. I'd bet you money to marbles those guys say we are ruining the breed by breeding fast dogs! I've never met the almighty guru of beagle breeding yet. We breed what suits us and if it doesn't suit us there will always be someone tickled to death to get a fair deal on a pup or dog if we will just be honest as we can when telling them about the dog. So far as saying a dog shouldn't be bred? As long as it is physical hereditary it should not. But if it is because of a certain characteristic I believe that should be up to the new owner. Maybe that is what he is breeding to put in his dog! I have culled (sold or given) dogs and pups and have always given papers, pedigrees and shot records if available with the dogs. I also try to be as honest as possible up front what they are getting to try to get a good match up, I don't want any problems. This is my opinion, don't want to make anyone mad. To each his own.
Thanks,
Bob

[reddog1]

Charles,
I never said that I was selling any hounds. I believe the term I used was give away. Yes Buds son did give money, to off set the cost of dog food. They brought me 14 hounds. Bud also told me he wouldn't mind if some of the younger males went to others.
His son also told me to use my discretion as to the wefare of the older hounds.
What goes on with these hounds is between myself and Buds family and nobody else.

They were given to me because Bud can no longer take care of them. Don't try to make it look like I am purposely trying to pull one over on Bud. I am doing what I was told to do by his family. Again thats between Myself and his family.

[BB Beagles]

I know one mans junk might be another mans treasure, but culling dogs in my book is as follows...

1- special needs dog. ( older dog that still needs be started)
2- dog with genetic flaw that could be hereditary
3- noisy kennel dog
4- dog that fights in box or with others
5- dog with no brains ( cold trailing, back tracking, bad line overrunner)
6- dog that whines while hunting
7- dog way to mouthy/ way to tight
8- dog that is human/gun shy
9- dog over 15"/under 13"
10- dog that has no hunt

[mybeagles]

I have given away far to many culls. Some end up getting bred, some get sold, some just get peddled from kennel to kennel. Will not happen again. Culls will be put down in my kennel and after seeing what many of the freebies go through it looks like that will be the best for the dog.

[J Riser]

My

I have given away far to many culls. Some end up getting bred, some get sold, some just get peddled from kennel to kennel. Will not happen again. Culls will be put down in my kennel and after seeing what many of the freebies go through it looks like that will be the best for the dog.

Hit the nail on the head. Couldn't not agree more not an easy thing but necessary

[S.R.Patch]

Charles,
I never said that I was selling any hounds. I believe the term I used was give away. Yes Buds son did give money, to off set the cost of dog food. They brought me 14 hounds. Bud also told me he wouldn't mind if some of the younger males went to others.
His son also told me to use my discretion as to the wefare of the older hounds.
What goes on with these hounds is between myself and Buds family and nobody else.

They were given to me because Bud can no longer take care of them. Don't try to make it look like I am purposely trying to pull one over on Bud. I am doing what I was told to do by his family. Again thats between Myself and his family.

I am confused..., you want it private but you announce on here that you've taken over the Glyshaw hounds, then you want it private, but you announce your trying to give away some Glyshaw hounds just to be apart of the cull thread.
I bought your $300. dog to help with money and so you didn't put him down when you were selling, then you take on 14 more hounds to feed and care for.
I'm glad you helped Bud, we been friends for a long time. This is all kinda of unsettling to hear this kind of stuff. Bud thinks you're kennel pardners and the family just wants rid of the hounds.
It's a scary thought to wake up one day and the world you thought you knew is no longer there. I imagine what Randall thought when he realized he wouldn't be going home from the hospital. Why he grabbed the arm of a trusted friend, the look in the eyes and the words, please help with the kennel.
I guess we all hope the right man comes along "to carry the line".
Please forgive where my sentimental feelings have ruffled the reality. I do wish you the best with the hounds.

[reddog1]

Charles,
I never told Bud that we were kennel partners, his family told him that and I can not control what they tell him, nor can I control when people try to bash my integrity on the internet.
The hounds were turned over to me papers and all, well papers on the ones that have papers anyway. hell i dont even know half their names as Bud could not remember them. The ones I want to keep, I will keep. The others I will get rid of as I see fit.

Charles you can bash me all you want, I really don't care. I'm done with this thread.

[S.R.Patch]

What is your definition of "bashing", when you won't answer my calls or return them? you want to use the internet as the method of communication but take and perceive everything in the wrong light.
I will call Bud and try to get info so you can at least match the correct hound to the correct papers, if you don't know their names I'd think it impossible to match what papers you have.
Storm & Indy were the two Bud brought to the Island to hunt. Storm the big lemon male and Indy the liver/tan/white bitch. The 4 young hounds were by Steady & one of the lemon bitches bud got from Campbell, I think their names were Chalk & Sister. I think Sister was their mama, I don't think Chalk had ever been bred. Steady is dead now. Only is the smaller of the bitches, she was the only pup in a litter and that's how she got her name.
If we could talk on the phone maybe I could help hook the other papers to the hounds.
I'll call Bud to get what I can.

[S.R.Patch]

One last thing to add, as some good should come from any misfortune.
What a wonder thing if these hounds had been tattooed or micro-chipped and those numbers/letters recorded on their permanent papers or a kennel ledger for identification.
We all look forward to a long happy life with our hounds, but sometimes life throws us a curve ball. The ninth inning is never a promised.

[littlewoody]

One last thing to add, as some good should come from any misfortune.
What a wonder thing if these hounds had been tattooed or micro-chipped and those numbers/letters recorded on their permanent papers or a kennel ledger for identification.
We all look forward to a long happy life with our hounds, but sometimes life throws us a curve ball. The ninth inning is never a promised.

Well said !

[PREACHERS KENNEL]

Preacher, all I can say is your shortsightedness will pay off big dividends in the end at someones expense. I bought a hound one time that had the loose eyelids, bred her and got a whole litter of cherry eyed pups. I went an seen the daddy and two aunts, he had the loose eyelids and the two aunts had the cherry eye.
I kept the whole litter till they died to remind me where I failed. That may sound dumb but I had to build the nature at a cost, to not over look things in the future. I have that character flaw, getting off cheap and passing it on never taught me much except it coming back to haunt me after the damage was done. With our hounds and the way the pedigrees are stacked that can be a very scary thing to look forward too. jmho

whatever dude///you aint the god of dogs. lol.. all I gave was my experience have raised beagles all my life am 55 now .I think I have seen a few things. ..if you want to call me names do that in person please not over a computer. I don't mean that threatening at all ..but its disrespectful to call people names over the computer .pm me I give u my number rather u fuss at me on phone thasn mouth off on computer. sorry for my little rant.

[S.R.Patch]

Ok, I won't call you preacher, I'll just call you Ricky.

Don't believe your sorry for your little rant either, you know how to pm. (but I think you got across what you were after.)

I tried to explain the flaw of your thinking and give an example where I'd done the same thing unknowingly and the results I'd gotten. Just trying to help you from my experience, not a know-it-all.

I was just saying, the more cherry eyes, bad bites, or any flaws we let pass..., is there for others to breed on with. You know how the "pure patch guys" breed these hounds back together. Well, if they breed your cherry eyed offspring to my cherry eyed offspring, then Dewey most likely going to end up with a bunch of cherry eyed pups.
Do you understand what I'm saying?

ps, I never have trouble calling on the phone, it's getting people to answer that's frustrating. lol
I checked pm's for your number, no luck.