Breaking a beagle on deer

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GAMEOVER
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Re: Breaking a beagle on deer

Post by GAMEOVER »

There are lots of methods to breaking bad habbits, you just have to put in the time and effort, as we all do I have gps track and train collars, I try and usually keep the dogs under 80 yards if they are not running, I can for the most part see the dogs, I usually try to control where I run young dogs around off game example I have a half acre wooded area that holds rabbit surrounded by clear pasture which also holds a few deer, if the dog runs deer ican see and stop that chase easier than in a 50 acre patch of grown up Christmas trees

lowell robertson
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Re: Breaking a beagle on deer

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Bro. Ricky, I would suspect that you did you home work with young hounds before you took them to the fields. I have chased a few down myself. A scolding with a brushy limb seemed to work fine. I will say I own a six collar outfit and try to use it with good judgment. I see fellows who always have a shocking collar on a hound and yes it is broke until you turn it loose without a collar and then it becomes unbroken. Dogs know when they have a shocking collar on or not. I like for pups to learn that it is more fun to run rabbits than off game. I guess my whole point is that it is counter-productive to "fry" a young dog when it doesn't have a clue why it is being fried. There is other game that young hounds like to run, foxes, turkeys, weasels, yotes, bobcats, house cats, and even other hounds. If they get fried for all of these they become very confused and worthless. I like Mud's idea, keep them on the game you want them to run until they establish positive behavior. I will add I have seen lots of broke hound become unbroken when they are sold or traded or put in a strange environment. There is no absolutes in the best methods. Use what works for you. I merely presented an alternative to "frying".

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Re: Breaking a beagle on deer

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I like Mud's idea, keep them on the game you want them to run until they establish positive behavior. I agree. :D :D
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bigcfromrbc
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Re: Breaking a beagle on deer

Post by bigcfromrbc »

I'll tell you this from recent personal experience since I've had a lot of Deer trouble lately. Last weekend coming off a strip mine I set mine on a Deer that ran across the road and smoked their hides. I went and got me an old broke dog the check them with. Nothing special. Hunts hard but slow. Ran yesterday morning for two hours on rabbits and went Deer hunting. Found a Deer and walked them to it. Showed no interest in taking off on the Deer. I'll continue to do this till I know they are 100% broke.

sammiller03
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Re: Breaking a beagle on deer

Post by sammiller03 »

i never consider one 100% broke , maybe 99.99999..as soon as you do they will make you look like an idiot. i would run a shock collar on a 10 yr old dog that has never ran a deer just in case. but thats me. :eek:

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Re: Breaking a beagle on deer

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sammiller03 wrote:i never consider one 100% broke , maybe 99.99999..as soon as you do they will make you look like an idiot. i would run a shock collar on a 10 yr old dog that has never ran a deer just in case. but thats me. :eek:

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My young dogs have gone with another dog once--I was able to call them back--but have never knowingly run a deer. They don't pay any attention to deer tracks. But they still wear an e-collar and tracker every time they go afield, except at trials. I do run a tracker at trials.
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