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likeemfast wrote:To me its one simple word, "Desire" you cant feed it to them, give them a drink of it, or even give them a shot of it, they either have it or they dont. How to breed it into a dog that makes it hunt the way i like them to, i have one word for that too, ...."Clueless".
dhoundman, I also believe Brains are a good trait to have, but if the hound dont have "DESIRE" to go with the brains its useless. I would rather have a dumb dog with desire than a smart dog with brains and no desire. JMO
AMEN If Im going to take time away from my family 3 to 4 times a week and fit running dog into my busy schedule they better lay it all on the line every time out or I will began to hate them.
brad stewart wrote:Lol your funny do you ever hunt other than the computer
Brad, glad you like my sense of humor, some on here don't. And as a matter of fact i have been known to run dogs once in a while, even got a scratch on my boots this year. I'm headed out to look for a new pair now.
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Likemfast I was just messing round trying to get things going I like a man that speaks his mind every time we start to have fun someone gets suspended for a while keep the good post coming and your humor good hunting
I also feel it's bred into them. But do you think the dogs it's run with also makes a difference ? If you have a powerhouse with tons of hunt to run a pup with do you think that pup will Hunt the same as if you ran it with a dog with average hunt or by itself. I am a firm believer that every dog in the pack should pull its weight and I give plenty of solo time. But i have always noticed that when you have good dogs it seems easier to have good young dogs.
I think its alot easier to make a dog hunt handle and run to the best of its ability if it is handle with the best soloed and ran with good hard hunting line running hounds. To put it short if you run with junk more than likely you well end up with rough ass dogs well they still hunts yes but how well they do it is the key
ironjawdawgs wrote:IMO, It's in there blood. If you know any gamecock breeders ask'em if you can teach gameness to a bird or if it's bred into'em. lol! If you want my opinion it's how they're bred and what's in their blood. Best breeders of anything I've seen are good gamecock breeders. So IMO, Factor that makes a dog hunt hard is genetic/blood/breeding. You can teach a hound to do a lot of things but you can't teach it how to hunt hard! Find a line/s of hounds that does and stick with it and keep breeding them. Don't settle or you'll never be satisfied! Learn to cull harder and keep what suites you. Which has probably been said on here a million times already. lol!
Listen to what this guy says and save yourself alot of time and effort!!!
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sammiller03 wrote:I also feel it's bred into them. But do you think the dogs it's run with also makes a difference ? If you have a powerhouse with tons of hunt to run a pup with do you think that pup will Hunt the same as if you ran it with a dog with average hunt or by itself. I am a firm believer that every dog in the pack should pull its weight and I give plenty of solo time. But i have always noticed that when you have good dogs it seems easier to have good young dogs.
I hate to run long distance.... Running with a marathon runner isn't gonna make me any more apt to run a marathon. Will running along side them influence my condition... Yes but that's only if its in me to do so. That may be a mumbojumbo statement but think about it some. lol!
Interesting! If you can't teach a hound to hunt hard can you teach it to hunt harder ? Can you enhance it's ability to jump? ( not necessarily the same thing as a hard hunter! Does the handler really make a difference? Are we all equal in that respect and what the dog is born with is what he will naturally display regardless of any other influence? Let's hear some opinions on this. My answers are Yes, Yes, Yes, and No!
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gwyoung wrote:Interesting! If you can't teach a hound to hunt hard can you teach it to hunt harder ? Can you enhance it's ability to jump? ( not necessarily the same thing as a hard hunter! Does the handler really make a difference? Are we all equal in that respect and what the dog is born with is what he will naturally display regardless of any other influence? Let's hear some opinions on this ! My answers are Yes, Yes, Yes, and No!
I think ive been saying some of the same things all along and had a pizza shop waiter tell me i dont know what im talking about, so be careful of the waters your treading GW.
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Likeem' I can generally keep my head above the surface. The main area that I feel a trainer doesn't make much difference is in how one runs. In other areas such as the topic at hand, which is Hunt, a knowledgeable man can make a difference, but it has to be with a hound that hunt was bred into!
GW, IMO, the handler makes all the difference in the world. He's not going to do it running Bruno 1 or 2 days a week tho. It takes time and lots of it. A good pup with a good houndsman can be a deadly combination. Even a average pup with the right houndsman can be one tuff combination.
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likeemfast wrote:GW, IMO, the handler makes all the difference in the world. He's not going to do it running Bruno 1 or 2 days a week tho. It takes time and lots of it. A good pup with a good houndsman can be a deadly combination. Even a average pup with the right houndsman can be one tuff combination.
yes sir. genetics will make him hunt ..sure..if it aint in him it cant come out . but a bad owner one that puts it up after rabbit season hunts 6 times in the season . stay on the tailgate// don't trash break , stop from backtracking or whatever bad thing there is ...
to have a complete dog he needs a good owner. that is dog smart. but to add something I don't think has been said . from what I have seen a hyper dogs seems to always hunt harder...that's what I look for in my pups to see who I am keeping . they usually runs more trash because they want to run something with scent . but when you get them broke and they tearing it up jumping rabbits a lot and running with the desire to catch ,,.pouring that mouth out .. aw its lovely .
ACTS 2:38=repent,baptised in the name of jesus christ,receive the holy ghost!
Handler/coach is the biggest factor in pretty much every sport. Give your best dog to be mr. jumpshooter, backtracker, trashrunner handle for a month and I'm willing to bet the dog is not the same. A good handler can make a good dog great.
If Im going to take time away from my family 3 to 4 times a week and fit running dog into my busy schedule they better lay it all on the line every time out or I will began to hate them.
I'm headed out to look for a new pair now.