Dogs being attacked!!!!!!!!!!!!

SmokeEater · Post by **SmokeEater** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:25 pm

wow... I guess after reading these posts I will start bringing my shot gun along with me... I usually dont even carry a gun while running rabbits... I guess that will change now..

Thanks for the information....

Kevin D
Olympia WA

merv · Post by **merv** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:33 pm

We put bells on our dogs to deter the coyotes. I dont really know if it works or not and my one friend told me that the bell attracts wolves. My buddy told me the same thing yesterday that we need to kill so many coyotes a year. As beaglers it is our responsibility to try and thin down the coyote population. Here in Michigan there are coyote tracks everywhere and I dont remember it being this bad. The funny thing is you never see the darn Yotes.

Hunt6 · Post by **Hunt6** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:28 pm

Shame they don't catch parvo like 7 week old beagle pups.Moving around over new ground is the difference I would guess.

I carry a 15 round 9mm in a shoulder holster for spring running.Many times a rem pump 22.Light as a feather.

Thank your game depts.They treat - manage the whitetail like that species is a god.Also the running pens in many of the states that brought them in for the very fast spread of the vermin.
Hunt6 David Pickens

merv · Post by **merv** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:47 pm

I'll be darn I just got done saying we dont see coyotes and my buddy just told me he saw one this morning. Go Figure.

DarrinG · Post by **DarrinG** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:14 pm

Coyotes are on the rise in my area also...grrrrrrr....Since we are seeing the rabbit population dwindle also, probably no coinsidence either.

I "usually" have a .38 on me somewhere....if one gets within range, it will get lead poisoning...

TimS · Post by **TimS** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:51 pm

The UP is real bad for coyotes. I lost 2 beagles this Fall up there. We heard the coyotes come in but couldn't get there in time. Found them dead & torn up. We had bells on them too. My friend who lives up there lost a female 2 weeks ago. He believes it was wolves that got her. He found her torn up too and large wolf tracks all around. The wolves attacked & killed bear dogs up there this Fall. The coyotes are swarming all over up there, but the wolves are really starting to take hold now & you can't do anything about them. My freind is actually thinking about getting out of beagling because of the coyote problem, & he's been a beagler for 35 years.

Bart Caudill · Post by **Bart Caudill** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:44 pm

I used to run my dogs with bells, until I had a coyote come in on them. I don't think bells help much.
I also think in the summer months, that the extra vibration (from the bells) can aggravate snakes, which go on vibration from their tongues. What I am getting at, is this past summer, while using bells, I had 1 male dog bit by a Rattlesnake, and 2 Copperheads, all in a 3 week time frame. Another male got Copperhead bit, and another female got Rattlesnake bit. I quit using the bells, and didn't have anymore trouble. Now I am not saying that a dog can't get snake bit without wearing a bell, but I think the extra vibration don't help matters.

Alot of people have told me that I need to find a new place to run my dogs. I guess after that many snake bites, they might be on to something.

goopslaw · Post by **goopslaw** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:57 pm

WEve got a group of guys here who hunt Coyotes out of pickups . They release theri Foxhound/coonhound curs to run the coyotes.Most of the coyotes are killed by the dogs, although some are shot.1 big cur can kill a coyote. Still seeing coyotes but not as bad. They dont seem to run in on dogs here, Maybe because the they have been cheased by hounds themselves. I run at least 2 big 15" males in every pack. They can stand their ground witha solo coyote. Never faced a pack yet though.

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:03 pm

merv,,im from indiana and there are tons of yotes,,,,,,i put bells on my dogs when im hunting, dont know what the bells do but it seems to shy the yotes off,its a good idea to carry a hand gun , i carry a 22 mag with me hunting or running , if they get close they get busted,,,,,,

kjohns · Post by **kjohns** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:00 am

goopslaw, I'm not sure I would count on 2 15" beagles standing their ground against a coyote. Heck I wouldn't count on any beagle standing their ground against much of anything except another beagle.

Bopeye · Post by **Bopeye** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:49 am

kjohns wrote:goopslaw, I'm not sure I would count on 2 15" beagles standing their ground against a coyote. Heck I wouldn't count on any beagle standing their ground against much of anything except another beagle.

Amen.

pa.hunter · Post by **pa.hunter** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:05 pm

I think you should kill every thing that harms rabbits or your dogs.I had some coyotes attack my dogs few months ago.did not kill any messed one dogs leg up. but realy scared the dogs pretty bad.

Bob Graves · Post by **Bob Graves** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:33 pm

Here in Central NY the Yotes are getting thick! Not uncommon to see more Coyote and Fox tracks than rabbit tracks. Never had them come in on my hounds while running in the wild, but I'm a member of a Beagle club and many times when running there at night we've had them come in and go ballistic just outside the fenced in grounds. I also have at least one fox out behind my house that has Brass Balls! He stays back in the woods a ways and barks back at my hounds in their kennels. I think if you have a hound with a high pitched squall mouth you will attract more Yotes. At least that's the way it seems at our club.

Hunt6 · Post by **Hunt6** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:52 pm

Bob G. wrote I also have at least one fox out behind my house that has Brass Balls! He stays back in the woods a ways and barks back at my hounds in their kennels.
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Probably there for safety reasons ! Staying out of the way aka using you - your house and dogs for safety zone.Yotes will eat fox like they eat rabbits.Most places with heavy yote populations have few foxes.
Hunt6 David P.

Bopeye · Post by **Bopeye** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:12 pm

Yep, Hunt6, that is a fact.

I'd say that is exactly why that fox is staying so close.

Gray fox can climb trees to get away, but red fox usually don't stand much of a chance.