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I'd have to agree with you, If they can't make the system reliable to a good degree of satisfaction, I'd send it back also. They probably won't stay in business long if that's the case tho...
They're just that useful to me being able to pull the unit out of my vest during a split or if dogs get out of pocket for what ever reason.
For that reason, I can understand why you are so frustrated and hopeful they can resolve the problem. Your all in with your money, I'm just on the sideline cheering you on...I'm not a hater, just confused at how your so promoting of something that has it's problems while being so expensive. Like buying a new shotgun that's got a flaw in the firing pen, pretty and works good when it hits, but I wouldn't recommend it till it's reliable. jmho
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S.R.Patch wrote:I'd have to agree with you, If they can't make the system reliable to a good degree of satisfaction, I'd send it back also. They probably won't stay in business long if that's the case tho...
I'm sure they'll fix the problem, it's just a question of how quickly. The coon dog and bird dog world love these things and they make up a much larger market than us beaglers do. Garmin dog products won't be going anywhere I don't think. Beaglers may have more dogs in general but the serious cooners and birders have much deeper pockets. As long as Garmin or any other dog related company can keep them happy then, as Shelby the Swamp Man says, "It's turtle soup tonight paw-paw"
I met some guys up on the Island that were looking for their hounds with the failed garmins. Doubt they were having turtle soup, but they weren't having rabbit stew either...
You must have been around someone with a much more serious problem than I'm having. Mine with freeze and shut down but literally withing 60 seconds I can have it back on and functioning normally. My issue is it may be 30 minutes or 3 hours before it does it again.
S.R.Patch wrote:I met some guys up on the Island that were looking for their hounds with the failed garmins. Doubt they were having turtle soup, but they weren't having rabbit stew either...
Now that's making an excuse, no rabbit stew is not the fault of the Garmin.
S.R.Patch wrote:No, not being able to track your hounds is the fault. No hounds/no stew...
Let's see if I got this right, can't kill rabbits unless you can track your dogs with some sort of electronic tracking device. . . hmm, yep that's a dandy there. Everyone knows I'm a fan of the alpha but that's a stretch even for me. I love my setup but even I won't give it credit for killing any rabbits. It's great to find dogs and nice to know exactly how far they are or when they are or are not coming in when called immediately. I'll give you that not being able to find your dogs does pretty much put the brakes on a rabbit hunt but to say it's the fault of the tracker (of any kind) that someone did not have a successful hunt is a bit of a stretch. Especially when if their "failures" are the same as what I've described. Like I said, it may freeze up but in less than a minutes you can turn it off and back on and be functioning again, looks like someone would do that long before an entire hunt was ruined because of lost dogs. Maybe they were having other issues that I've not experienced though. If that's the case then you're right, no dogs no stew.
All I'm saying is, they were on the east end of the island. Hounds got off on a hare? and they couldn't keep signal to find them. Second day, batteries were going down and signal was weak when they could get one and they weren't far off but couldn't be heard. Third day no signal at all, and no hounds last I knew.
Your right, it doesn't directly cause the game bag to stay empty, but loosing your hounds with $1700 dollars worth of jewelery hanging around their neck is disappointing...
Crow wrote:If you can track you can shock whether its 0.1 mile or 10 miles
well if thats the case then i guess the training signal uses satellites just like the tracking does , rather than RF signal , thats pretty awesome. guess its time to break the piggy bank !!!!!
They don't use satellites to communication tracking or training....it's radio signal that relays the gps coordinates to your handheld.
dony understand how it can not use satellites atleast to track GPS global positioning system which is satellites
9 miles is what the unit is good for. tracking, shocking. they have 4 different antennas for the unit the boys could have put the dogs on rescue mode and it would have saved battery power and took em straight to the dogs. there are different antennas they could have bought and saved there dogs. ive had mine for over a yr now not a problem 1 yet. the antenna that is bout 1 foot long picks up real well had it in the thickest of cover to the highest elevations never lost a hound yet. seen guys with the older units the g2's and g3's loose several of theres and they were wishing they sure had the alpha system.
never had any problems with mine its the best system i ever had i picked up my dogs at over 4 miles. i let them run and left just to see how far it would pick up. pretty awsome
They don't use satellites to communication tracking or training....it's radio signal that relays the gps coordinates to your handheld.
[/quote]dony understand how it can not use satellites atleast to track GPS global positioning system which is satellites[/quote]
The handheld and collars due use satellites to figure out their position on the planet but not to communicate with each other. For example the collar receives the GPS signal, that signal is calculated to determine location, then the location of the collar is transmitted or "communicated" to the handheld by VHF radio signal. Now lets say you wanna tone or train your dog. You push the button & the signal is sent by VHF radio signal from the handheld to the collar. No satellite involved there either. The only thing they use satellites for are to figure out where they are & each individual part of the system does that for itself. Once a collar knows where it is then the VHF side does the rest. It's just like the way the ecollars have always "communicated" from transmitter to collar, only difference is the alpha collars talk back.
