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Competent wrote:Hey lee iam.not sur what AKC trials u are going to down ur way make a trip ta some AKC or.CKC lph trials in da northeast and iam sur u will leave wid a differnet attitude.
As far as Reggie goes he was a exceptional one himself but iam not sur how u can't see that da market in da mid west is flooded wid Reggie stuff.. der always fer sale just look at da classifieds. Reggie's percentage rate is down fer how many times he has been bred its black and white men!
Harry Jr.
I was thinking the same thing 2 top bitches that reproduced outstanding hounds, when bred to different males.
I always see plenty of Reggie dogs for sale, people tend to breed to the hot ticket or what they can sell puppies out of.
Look at how many FC's both Midwest and Canadian were finished by the die hard, every weekend trialer??
Everyday hunters like most aren't going to finish there best MOST of the time, simply because they don't go to trials.
I would like to see how many were finished by each individual person. That doesn't take away from producing power but it sure
adds to the stats. Some people put the time on the hounds and have the means and ways to travel to finish them. I may never have that ability as will many others be in the same boat as myself.
Ex. one guy finishes 10 hounds for FC or FTCH out of his hounds. Okay, impressive any way you stack it, but that guy is the diehard trialer. Myself, and most, are
trialer wannabe's at best...LOL.
Take those hounds out and lets see the numbers then??
Location location location, most of Reggie's breedings are to little pack style dogs ,which means that guys who run little pack take there stock ,which is 9 X out 10 little pack Breeding stock. so then when you breed them to Reggie you get more than likely a little pack style pup. But when you live in New York or Canada where the only people breeding to a lot of these great studs ,is AKC guys with there stock ,which is AKC breed females. Not to take anything away from either stud but its like mountain man or butkis yea they got good percentages ,but most of those are out of the same blood females( mountain man to shaker females and butkis to ninja females) . But I guess none of this really matters if your a Reggie hater!!!
Like him or hate him, Reggie's pups will be around for a while. I don't have a Reggie dog nor have I ever had one, I think Lawhorn hit it on the head, it seemed like just four years ago you started seeing his number rising on offspring placing. Not for sure but I'm guessing before Reggie's Pups started placing in the Midwest and other AKC formats, you would find most pups placing in ARHA Little Pack. Seems like some trialers liked the Midwest and jumped ship from Little Pack to Midwest, so when they came so did the Reggie dogs...
His pups are established now in this registry and like it or not he's got plenty of time to produce more FC's. He might never reach the highest peak and become top reproducer, but I'd say he will be the most favorite stud of all time...
Competent wrote:I spent alot of time wid John Monkman when he was wid us.....He specifically told me da yr da MAN died had 36 pups placing in Canada/USA and only bred 20 ta 25 bitches.... Due ta CKC clubs not advertising in da BB magazine as u must ta be eligible fer BB high sire is da reason da MAN never won it...
Everyone is high on ranger Dan guys he bred hundreds of bitches.
If ya didn't have ta advertise in BB ta be eligible fer da high sire and dam awards... U wld have seen shaker da MAN and Armandos Levi wld have dominated fer years. Ranger Dan wld have struggled ta win da high sire award.. Now fer da Dams Squirrel creek Angie and awful Bawlin hoser and swampsingin cricket wid have dominated da top dams fer yrs also. Pine acres Mollie wld have struggled ta win da top dam. So I don't care what it says in da BB comic book its horse crap ya have ta advertise in it ta win da award. Alot better producers out in dis sport den getting mentioned in dat comic book. Believe what ya guys want facts are facts men. Don't believe every ting ya read in a book.
littlewoody wrote:I heard from a local drunk that was on here say Reggie didn't have the nose for the cold winter weather .
I wasn't the drunk but I heard in a bar once that the 1st two times he went to Canada he blew up and was sent back home. IMO there are only 2 reasons why he's been bred to so much, one is location, he's easy access, and second is most of the guys who have used him, for stud, did so because they can spell Reggie.
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When figuring percentages you have to have all of the dogs compete in the same format.
For example: Lets say "Rover" sired 300 pups and produced 2 akc FC's.
BUT...Rover also sired 15 arha RCh's ,10 ukc HBCh's, and 150 pups that just hunted and never trialed.
Rover can't help the fact that people run multiple formats or choose not to trial.
LPB
well u go ahead a pet rover and tell him it will be OK....LOL
there is a lot of story's about reggie. I didn't see him run so I cant answer thos ???? all I have is second hand info, and from a few people I trust that's all I needed to know.
Like Harry said Reggie was an outstanding individual especially when handled by Kevin Monroe. He had very good success when he was in Canada, but didn't blow through the circuit he had his struggles. He was also Bred to A FTCH Terry McBride owned and just average dogs as well. I know there are many outstanding dogs out of Reggie out there but one would think there should be more. Also BM Orchard percentage is based on pups produced Vs Champs not litters. One issue beaglers suffer from is being a bunch of cheapskates . Most will just bred to something close not spending the money or time breeding to a dog that crosses better with their female . If the last statement wasn't true you would see a lot more pups off
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Darryl wrote:Like Harry said Reggie was an outstanding individual especially when handled by Kevin Monroe. He had very good success when he was in Canada, but didn't blow through the circuit he had his struggles. He was also Bred to A FTCH Terry McBride owned and just average dogs as well. I know there are many outstanding dogs out of Reggie out there but one would think there should be more. Also BM Orchard percentage is based on pups produced Vs Champs not litters. One issue beaglers suffer from is being a bunch of cheapskates . Most will just bred to something close not spending the money or time breeding to a dog that crosses better with their female . If the last statement wasn't true you would see a lot more pups off
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This post is so true... Beaglers don't want ta spend money or travel ta breed ta hounds they stay close ta home and keep breeding average hounds..
3xCNLPC Forest Pond Slick will be in NY at my door yard for stud very soon so don't be afraid ta travel get ur bitch up here and get what it takes ta win in ur breeding program!
i have a bitch that has 2 litters of dogs on the ground one litter is 14 months and runs with anything. top hounds. the others are 7 months old and all are running rabbits like 2 year olds. i will bring this bitch to slick when you get him. she is all casey snapps blood.
Seems like some trialers liked the Midwest and jumped ship from Little Pack to Midwest, so when they came so did the Reggie dogs...
As long as the lp Judges remember the rules and not the name.It will all work out.Took me 5 yrs to get what the format wanted and then it took a swing back to where i was to start off with. ............ Reggie did get a little rough in the top 40 i was told first hand however once he was brought home and dialed in, he went back and finished the job.Thats the problem with trials, it will make the best edgy. I talked to ol monk pretty regular regret i never shook his hand but he sure as hell seemed to hit the top 5 on a regular basis. How much ya reckoned he soloed? This versus that will always very a hot button. Rebels vs Yankees we know how that went however us rednecks brought the northern bred dogs down south and did quite well. Cant put a finger on it but we seem to have a little something you boys up north dont have. Best trial of date Broome Co finals Ny winners pack, actually harry snow jr was judging big males- We swept the class as well as big bitches.
Thre is a certain time to catch you northern boys up your way.Right after the snow melts and we have been hammering for months down south. Never the less makes for great conversation. I like yankees they drink beer at there trials.
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............ Reggie did get a little rough in the top 40 i was told first hand however once he was brought home and dialed in, he went back and finished the job.Thats the problem with trials, it will make the best edgy. I talked to ol monk pretty regular regret i never shook his hand but he sure as hell seemed to hit the top 5 on a regular basis. How much ya reckoned he soloed? This versus that will always very a hot button. Rebels vs Yankees we know how that went however us rednecks brought the northern bred dogs down south and did quite well. Cant put a finger on it but we seem to have a little something you boys up north dont have. Best trial of date Broome Co finals Ny winners pack, actually harry snow jr was judging big males- We swept the class as well as big bitches.