Who is akc top reprodcing sire of all time

[littlewoody]

My self being a gun hunter I don't look at number I look at who the best breeder . The person who has the talent to put it all together to make a top gun dog .

[hounddog]

As far as percentages go, look at Moneysunk Mountain Man. Nuff said.

hounddog
Jim Umbarger

[likeemfast]

As far as percentages go, look at Moneysunk Mountain Man. Nuff said.

hounddog
Jim Umbarger

Couldn't agree more, and there's a statement for ya and it only took one sentence.

[chapkosbeagles]

i am sure rangerdan is still the top akc reproducer. and shaker being the over all reproducer thew canada and usa. they consider rangerdan to have the best percentage. the recoards i found said
1 rangerdan
2 hauntedhill shaker
3 striker
greenbay shooter is climing fast i think he is in the top 5 anyone no his total fc s




i was told there is olny 6 fc out of reggie and has well over 300 breedings he will never hit the top unless something changes fast

[Competent]

As far as percentages go, look at Moneysunk Mountain Man. Nuff said.

hounddog
Jim Umbarger

darn rite Jim u beat me to posting dat. Its plain and simple if we go by percentages and how many times day been bred. Da MAN is at da top of da list!! Awful Bawlin Verswacker which is off da Man who hasn't been bred much at all has a outstanding percentage rite.

Harry Snow Jr.

[Darryl]

MSMM Did have a great Percentage but very limited breeding tough to get a read on him as an overall producer outside the Shaker female line. He died very young and who knows how he could of influenced beagles more he sure left a mark with only about 120 pups.

[chapkosbeagles]

with that said. i would say that is shaker breeding too than. shaker could have very well been the influence there. how many akc champs did the MAN have? i lack the resources to get his info,and just finding bits and pieces. i have never herd a bad thing about the dog.

[mdbeagler]

Its all very relative to format . I like what the ukc does with the coonhounds. If anyone subscribes to Coonhound Bloodline mag. every issue at the back they publish top producing sire and dam (Current and Historical) and this is separated by total champions and by percentage produced and to me percentage is a much better indicator . So take a dog like MR T mentioned in this post produced 23 champs sounds great right ? However I have read a stud add on him years ago stating he has somewhere close to 2000 pups produced . So dogs like Jack and Ninja who only produced about 250-300 pups and still produced 38 plus champs is far more superior . I think Reggie is another example of people not knowing the stats. I know that's not a popular view but numbers don't lie. Reggie would have to have close to 2000 pups and hes the akc top producing sire with 24 offspring placing . Look at Viagra about 500 pups and hes only a few offspring behind. I also know with beagles they're a lot of dogs that don't go to trials or even get registered but the sample numbers listed are approx. but very close and give us a good enough overview.

I agree with Darryl 100% not a popular view of things when it comes to reproducing hounds but true.
If you breed anything enough you are going to have some success, especially when bred to top bitches or studs for that matter.

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

If you breed anything enough you are going to have some success.For the sake of arguing i disagree.I dont think a top bitch will overcome a dud stud.I can close my eyes and pick any two dogs of this forum and probaly produce average results. In my case i dont want average results. Do you?

[mdbeagler]

If you breed anything enough you are going to have some success.For the sake of arguing i disagree.I dont think a top bitch will overcome a dud stud.I can close my eyes and pick any two dogs of this forum and probaly produce average results. In my case i dont want average results. Do you?

Doesn't take rocket science to figure out if you breed any dog and produce hundreds of puppies, that something isn't going to click especially with several different sires/dams.
If you bred a top bitch to enough dud studs you would eventually get something, just like some of the dud studs that produce
by being bred to several top bitches.
A true reproducer tends to be pro-potent for their genes, which is why some of them produce their traits on a high percentage.
Ever hear guys say you could breed that dog to an alley cat and get a rabbit dog?
Top producer in the field doesn't mean top reproducer.
I prefer to stack the odds in my favor, I look for the dog that hasn't been breed 300 times or more and produced only a few
champions or above average hounds.
Which is why I have dogs in my kennel from most of the top true reproducers mentioned, and not the ones breed several times
and not produced as much as they should with the number of breedings.
It's all about percentages, facts are facts.

[BM Orchard]

Going by number of breedings per FC 2 are being left out with outstanding %'s.

FC Whitney's Mad Max
IFC Doyland Jimmy

Both are 50% or better.

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

mdbeagler i tend to agree with your point. In the deep end of the pool of genetics i tend to see people gasping for air once they figure out they cant tread with there current base of hounds. With that being said you as well as i know its a pretty tuff road to ho when a cross does not produce anything other than average hounds.By throwing the word average around i mean something that does not exceed parents. That was my point i aint got time to debate only speak from what i have seen first hand. I watched my father and his partners bred reg cattle for years, ya know just a kid that tended to listen to the old guys.
I never had alot of money and oddly enuff had to somehow figure out some type of direction when getting into dogs.Once again i listened more than speaking.If you remember we have not always afforded the luxury of the internet, or the beagle board. In todays modern society everyone is a breeder and knowledge is at our fingertips. Or at least it seems.Best of luck with your hounds if my memory serves me correct your a shaker man? I like some shaker blood. Take Care as always.

[Slaux]

It's too bad that a producer is only judged by how many FC's they produced, although I know this is the only hard and fast, published number we can come up with for comparisons. That being said, how many of these Sire's and or Dam's produced outstanding hounds in type, temperment and god given ability that were never entered in a trial, yet by any comparison, were outstanding hounds in their own rights. On the flip side of that coin, how many of these FC's produced were simply trial dogs and would have been completely useless as a hunting hound or companion. I haven't by all means seen them all, but in my opinion, Blue Ninja is at the top of the list as for as percentages go for producing good solid hounds that were built right, possessed sound temperments and were not only good trial hounds but would have suited any hunter as well. Just my opinion....

[mdbeagler]

mdbeagler i tend to agree with your point. In the deep end of the pool of genetics i tend to see people gasping for air once they figure out they cant tread with there current base of hounds. With that being said you as well as i know its a pretty tuff road to ho when a cross does not produce anything other than average hounds.By throwing the word average around i mean something that does not exceed parents. That was my point i aint got time to debate only speak from what i have seen first hand. I watched my father and his partners bred reg cattle for years, ya know just a kid that tended to listen to the old guys.
I never had alot of money and oddly enuff had to somehow figure out some type of direction when getting into dogs.Once again i listened more than speaking.If you remember we have not always afforded the luxury of the internet, or the beagle board. In todays modern society everyone is a breeder and knowledge is at our fingertips. Or at least it seems.Best of luck with your hounds if my memory serves me correct your a shaker man? I like some shaker blood. Take Care as always.

I agree the luxury of the internet and the amount of information available, I know that first hand as I work in the tech field.
I have met many very knowledgeable houndsman via the internet that years ago I would have never known.
The information is there for those that want to do the research, and are able to decipher the good from the bad.
A lot of internet experts out there that didn't do their homework......LOL.
I actually have Shaker, Striker, Shooter and paycheck breeding for the most part.

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

It's too bad that a producer is only judged by how many FC's they produced, although I know this is the only hard and fast, published number we can come up with for comparisons. That being said, how many of these Sire's and or Dam's produced outstanding hounds in type, temperment and god given ability that were never entered in a trial, yet by any comparison, were outstanding hounds in their own rights. On the flip side of that coin, how many of these FC's produced were simply trial dogs and would have been completely useless as a hunting hound or companion. I haven't by all means seen them all, but in my opinion, Blue Ninja is at the top of the list as for as percentages go for producing good solid hounds that were built right, possessed sound temperments and were not only good trial hounds but would have suited any hunter as well. Just my opinion....

You nailed it. Kinda like its back to school time at my house. If it was my decision my daughters clothes would come from walmart, i means she is 8 yrs old. However as always ol daddy has been informed by mom and sis that aint happening.They shop in lexington at a store called Justice and Matilda Jane. So basically as i wear 4 year old underwear my daughters inner circle lives like rock stars and have phones far superior to mine. I dont know about the rest of you dads but seems like girls especially the youngest and only girl pretty much dictates the pace at my house.Sorry to ramble on but Slaux your so right makes me wonder how many backyard hound that could be Ifc are looming in the horizion.