The Elms Jigs Maggies Mate

[Chippewa01]

Got a grandson to FC Northern Tango that has a good nose and enough foot for him and the dogs behind trying to play catch up!

[Pine Lakes]

Anyone offended by anything said on this thread should do some self reflecting. If you have found a particular line that satisfies your desires in a hound then keep it, reproduce it, and enjoy it for years. I have Jigs in my hounds through the Striker dog and I occasionally see the exact same traits in them as I've seen in direct offspring. That doesn't mean that they are substandard by any means and if anyone suggests they have a bloodline that doesn't need culled then look somewhere else. For God Sake I've seen patch hounds that would destroy a pack of the most well bred dogs seen to man. A good dog is a good dog and you can get one out of any line if you are selective enough. Hunt, brains, stamina are also some characteristics that I witnessed out of most Jigs offspring. We haven't even mentioned the females that were bred to Jigs and everytime a generation passes you increase the likleyhood of not having the those characteristics in your hound, unless you're line breeding. I guess what I'm saying is you could have a hound with Jigs in his 5 generation pedigree 6 times and still likely don't have a hound with the characteristics of Jigs himself. That doesn't mean you'll never see it either. How do you guys that haven't seen multiple offspring of Jigs run know you have "Jigs" dogs? Maybe you have Flying Spark dogs or East Coast Trimmer dogs or Anna's Ann dogs or Dutch Weifke dogs or Jack Of All Trades dogs or Dingus Macrae dogs or Adirondack Bobby dogs or Lar-May Huntmaster dogs or Antrim Hill Spot dogs . The possibilities are exponetial and just because you have Jigs a few times in 5 generations doesn't mean you have Jigs dogs. Good luck to all and if you truly wanted to know if your hounds carry Jigs' characteristics then get with drifter22.

[eddywilliams]

Hawkeye, Zachary, Wolf are a few that were bred here with hopes of getting the rare Jigs like dogs and none of them were reproducers. The only exception was the Silver Bullet dog and then it ended with him as well. The closest that Lorenzo D'Urso ever came was when he made the cross to Tracker with Armando's Northern Echo that produced Tango. Unfortunately bad bites cursed that cross which James Lattimer can testify to. Tango was not a bad producer but because he lacked nose and foot along with bad bite one had to be very careful what and how he was bred to as well. By far the best cross ever produced by Northern Tracker was Tracker to Armando's Reba and once discovered, before the cross could be repeated Reba was stolen out of Rays yard.(COPY)

[BCBeagles]

Sounds like the jigs traits are special and would no doubt continue a line of nice hounds. But as one old timer told me, you can't resurrect the dead. IMO, if you aren't satisfied with what your breeding research and GO SEE what makes you want to run more! This is such an enjoyable part to me in trying to find quality hounds!

Good running to all!

[Chippewa01]

Nor does he have a bad bite, has pretty solid above average conformation as well. To this date with multiple bitches from different bloodlines never produced a bad bite.

I agree if you like it, feed it. It you don't like it don't bash it cause someone else does. Or whine when your getting beat

I will also agree "jigs" blood does seem to be fairly watered down in this day and age

[bill (flint river )]

every thing I have seen and owned out of tracker were nice hounds. I have owned 1 right out of tracker. real nice hound, great gun dog. some crosses don't work some do. my experience , not getting info second hand was tracker worked for me. way better then pacesetter. but i like my dogs to hunt for a rabbit, not sit around and wait for some one or thing to jump a rabbit.

[drifter22no1]

Nor does he have a bad bite, has pretty solid above average conformation as well. To this date with multiple bitches from different bloodlines never produced a bad bite.

I agree if you like it, feed it. It you don't like it don't bash it cause someone else does. Or whine when your getting beat

I will also agree "jigs" blood does seem to be fairly watered down in this day and age

Chippewa01,
I in no way meant that having a dog that went back to Tango would result in bad bites lol. I was only making a point that all dogs that go back to Jigs do not necessarily have Jigs like traits nothing more. But just in case you didn't know, Jigs had a bad bite also, he was overshot. So bad bites is something that can and will flare up with line breeding Jigs dogs and like I said before it is no different than any other dog there are good and bad so you just have to be willing to cull just like with any other dog. Jigs was a reproducer there is no question about that, that's why he still shows up in so many pedigrees today. And when I talk about all dogs not producing that were out of Jigs my point was, most of the crosses that were made using the Jigs by Flying Spark dogs were made by trialers and most did not work to date Northern Tracker has produced more dogs successful in the trialing world than any other Jigs and Flying Spark dog. And exactly like Pine Lake said we have to keep in mind all the females that were used to produce these dogs, if you breed a substandard female to be best male you have to expect substandard results, period.

Ray called me once and asked me if I wanted a pup out of Jigs bred to a Heli-prop x Woodstock Penny female I said well heck yeah I want him. I drove all the way to Lexington KY to get the pup and the pup had a bad bite and crooked legs lol. I kept the pup until I got him started and then gave him away and kept the papers on him. By the way he barked all over the place lol so it just goes to show you Just because the name Jigs is in the pedigree doesn't mean that the dogs possesses Jigs like traits lol.

anyway if I made you feel like I was saying Tango in your pedigree is a problem that was not my intent so I apologize if that is the way you took it.

Like an old man (timer) told me one time at the Jessamine Co. trial one time in the early 90's (back when it was considered the Super Bowl of Beagling); "All dogs have holes some have big holes and some have little holes but they all have holes, you just have to decide what holes you are willing to live with"

[Chippewa01]

Nor does he have a bad bite, has pretty solid above average conformation as well. To this date with multiple bitches from different bloodlines never produced a bad bite.

I agree if you like it, feed it. It you don't like it don't bash it cause someone else does. Or whine when your getting beat

I will also agree "jigs" blood does seem to be fairly watered down in this day and age

Chippewa01,
I in no way meant that having a dog that went back to Tango would result in bad bites lol. I was only making a point that all dogs that go back to Jigs do not necessarily have Jigs like traits nothing more. But just in case you didn't know, Jigs had a bad bite also, he was overshot. So bad bites is something that can and will flare up with line breeding Jigs dogs and like I said before it is no different than any other dog there are good and bad so you just have to be willing to cull just like with any other dog. Jigs was a reproducer there is no question about that, that's why he still shows up in so many pedigrees today. And when I talk about all dogs not producing that were out of Jigs my point was, most of the crosses that were made using the Jigs by Flying Spark dogs were made by trialers and most did not work to date Northern Tracker has produced more dogs successful in the trialing world than any other Jigs and Flying Spark dog. And exactly like Pine Lake said we have to keep in mind all the females that were used to produce these dogs, if you breed a substandard female to be best male you have to expect substandard results, period.

Ray called me once and asked me if I wanted a pup out of Jigs bred to a Heli-prop x Woodstock Penny female I said well heck yeah I want him. I drove all the way to Lexington KY to get the pup and the pup had a bad bite and crooked legs lol. I kept the pup until I got him started and then gave him away and kept the papers on him. By the way he barked all over the place lol so it just goes to show you Just because the name Jigs is in the pedigree doesn't mean that the dogs possesses Jigs like traits lol.

anyway if I made you feel like I was saying Tango in your pedigree is a problem that was not my intent so I apologize if that is the way you took it.

My response wasn't to your post. I completely understand every point you made, I respect your knowledge on this particular bloodline! My response was to the irrelevant (COPY) post lol

[drifter22no1]

OK just wanted to make sure you took what I was saying only as examples not targeting anything or anyone

[JBrock]

I don't know a whole lot about the jig's blood. but I have never met anyone that knows the blood or any bloodline for that matter
better than jonah! if he says it you can take it too the bank!!!

[couch potato jim]

Did my home work about the Jigg's blood line and found out this is some awesome stuff. After 3 long years of research I breed my Hill Shakers Little Candy Girl To Frenchmans Zacary Last " The Last grandson to Jigg's Maggies Mate" and Let me tell everyone this turn out awesome. Jim's Jazzy Jig's Has AWESOME hunt, getting in any kind of brush she can find and she will find them bunny's man. Jazzy has good control, nice check work, and can run a rabbits tail off. Jazzy has a good bite and is a real nice looking tri color. Come to think about it all of Zacs pups came out real nice. This Jigg's stuff is nice and suits me just fine. Just got done breeding Hill Shakers Little Candy Girl again

[Buckeye Bob]

Interesting post for sure. I made the original post 3 years ago and see it has been resurrected. Ran my Jigs dog, Slide, tonight after being in the kennel for 6 months he showed the first and only rabbit he ran 3 times and ran it well for over an hour. Jigs or not you gotta love a level headed, good nosed dog.

[tdog]

That is awesome Bob,
Thanks for starting the post.. I agree with your comments about Jigs dogs they seem to be very level headed and smart... I am curious about Slides pedigree, he sounds like a nice hound...