How bad u wanna WIN

[WestmorelandsKennel]

I've been measured upteen times with the same dog even at the world! Heck I have had a good so called buddy measure me 2 or 3 times! I know I run tall dogs but after so many on the same dog it gets annoying!i don't believe I've ever owned a grand but my opinion I have is grands shouldn't be able to be measured for the simple fact if the dog got a first and 100 points to make champion and then 5 more firsts to make a grand then come on people in all those casts had so many chances to have the dog measured! So that's my opinion on that!We all know how it is everyone is so scared to have a dog measured because they don't want to get pencil whipped later on down the road! So My next opinion on the world hunt measuring on pre-registration day measure all opens and champs even if does take a couple of hours! Heck I would even volunteer to do it next year! To cut out the heartaches in the middle of the hunt that needs to happen! Just nip it in the BUTT from the start! I agree Guys the worst spot to get measured is at the stake all it does is create (animosity) toward each other! One more thing I would never have a dog measured cuz I know what bad taste it puts in my mouth when someone has me measured!

[bigdogs0074]

The problem is now that with all the hormones in chicken and subsequently dog food, dogs are growing bigger. People are taller now than they were 65 years ago too, should they be excluded from some sports b/c they have a height advantage? A bigger dog should never have an advantage in a rabbit trial b/c of where rabbits hide...in the brush. The rule is old and outdated. Plenty of fine akc/ukc full blooded hounds out there over 15 inches.

I have seen lots of 14in dogs make 16in dogs. But i dont care how big a dog is. If the dog is better than mine, he just better. if I have a good too big i just want trial him, but thats just me

[lebro]

If you don't beat somebody is it really a win or just taking home a trophy.

[Bryantsville Beagler]

I got a 15 1/2 inch champion dog that lacks one win from granding, guess what if I'm there I'll be damned he will be to! Dog up or shutup!

[holeshot kennel]

when the whole measurement card deal started i was told by one of the top guys that anybody that stepped up and was willing could start a whole new division for oversised dogs wonder why they never pursued that idea

[SUNRISE10]

Just wondering Bryantsville Beagler how do you get your 15 1/2 Champion in the hunts?
Do you have him measured each time or do you have card..

[Smoke'n Mack]

Just wondering Bryantsville Beagler how do you get your 15 1/2 Champion in the hunts?
Do you have him measured each time or do you have card..

I'll venture a guess based on my experience. The last ARHA hunt I was at, my female measured 13.5". She is a 14 and 3/4 to 14 and 7/8 inch hound all day long. She's been measured 14 7/8 three times, and 14 3/4 twice. Then 13.5"??? I bet he could get the dog in some, sometimes not...

[Swampman]

I got a 15 1/2 inch champion dog that lacks one win from granding, guess what if I'm there I'll be damned he will be to! Dog up or shutup!

Wow, and you guys want to criticize a guy for asking a hound be measured at the stake, really????

[WestmorelandsKennel]

I don't wanna win anyway I just want to run! LOL A rule is a rule I was talking to a buddy yesterday talking about this issue and we was talking if in ur consciousness mind know that your dog is over then we and I say we know the consequences for being over so there is no argument 15 or under! I will say when we me and my father breed that's one thing I take in consideration is height! Hey what am I talking about the only dog that I own is 13.5! LOL

[warddog]

WOW,
From an ole outsider looking in and to youngsters that may be interested in this format, it is apparent that many know the rule(s)and knowingly ignore and violate them. It is also apparent in my eyes that they also get by and in turn allow others to get by violating them. I read ALL these threads so as to try to understand how these beagle trials go and I've found the problem...........FOLKS JUST DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THE WRITTEN RULES OR ENFORCE THEM! It's also apparent that I want NO part of this registry as it is no better than the masses that comprise it. If the rules that govern the registry's degree(s) are rules that are NOT followed and enforced then it is my opinion the degree is no better than the rule or rules not followed and or enforced meaning worthless other than paper. I would liken it to one of those bought online college degrees. With what I've seen in this thread I'd call everyone I competed against to be measured as in God I would trust and ALL others would have to have the stick put to them because when folks flat out say they know their dogs are over but continue to violate that rule, then who can you trust. I also would have NO problem when someone requested my dog to be put to the measurement stick as I would be well aware if the dog were in or out. If the mode of measuring is NOT constant than that needs to be addressed as well AND ENFORCED. You can't have any legitamate registry degree program without a set of enforced rules.

[Murphy's Kennel]

Its easy to sit at home and knock something you havent tried. For the most part people get on here and tend to blow things way out of proportion. My advice(for what its worth) is load up and go to a hunt! Matter of fact Albany KY has a hunt this weekend. I will garuantee to put you in rabbits and have a good time. MY POINT IS ITS EASY TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION FROM CRAPT ON A PUBLIC FORUM! No offense Bev! Because there is bs in every organization. Try several different formats and see what you like!

[Bryantsville Beagler]

Just wondering Bryantsville Beagler how do you get your 15 1/2 Champion in the hunts?
Do you have him measured each time or do you have card..

Arha great so called money racket measuring card

[Bryantsville Beagler]

I got a 15 1/2 inch champion dog that lacks one win from granding, guess what if I'm there I'll be damned he will be to! Dog up or shutup!

Wow, and you guys want to criticize a guy for asking a hound be measured at the stake, really????

I never criticized anybody I run big dogs but they don't stand I've been beat more times then I've won hey they give the option to measure at the stake so be it but don't do it to try and win bc your scared bc that 1/2 inch won't beat you

[Swampman]

There was one measured this year! Guess he heard how fast the dog he was running against was and turned yellow. Just my look on it. Its a rule and to each his own but to measure a dog in the finals of the grands at the world is pretty low in my book.

You added to this sh*t storm by trying to make someone following rules to look scared of losing, yellow, basically calling him a piece of sh*t.
Now you come on here criticizing the forum and people standing up for ethics as blowing things out of proportion?

I use to run ARHA back when Everett owned it and had pride in it, it hasn't been the same since.

As posted above, people knowingly cheating and needing one more win to make grand ch., yet you questioned his manhood for asking for a measurement at the stake in the grands!
So, I ask all you criticizing him, how bad do YOU want to win?

Please let us know who the man with the integrity is, if I ever meet him, I'd like to buy him a beer.

RH

[Murphy's Kennel]

NEVER did I call anyone a piece of sh&$.... I said he was scared and my question to you is this? if he was so trying to follow the rules. Why didnt he have the other dog in the finals measured? I was there and seen both dogs beside each other and there wasnt any difference. Or why didnt he measure dogs in the cast before where I know there was two dogs as big in that cast? All these dogs are 15 or under but he singled out the one dog SO yeah looks pretty scared to me.....
I started in 93 and the same people were the president and Sec and treasure then wasnt it? Everett told me at a hunt in 94 he was busy with P.P. he didnt have time to compete in both! What someone else posted about a champion dog of thiers is there baby I have nothing do with that! I dont run dogs over and dont measure dogs at the stake so either win or lose its gonna be in the field with me! Also I said some things get blown out proportion on here and they do! People like to take words and twist them around. All I was saying then was dont make an assuption by whats being posted on a public forum go and judge for yourself as I have an assumption of you but doesnt mean it true! I am done with this thread so have fun!