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[Pine Mt Beagles]

Republican's ,,are quick to claim they are the party of Relegion (( GOD )) Of course that is just a flat out lie ,But,Remember the 47 % Comment's Mr Romney Made ,and how all of you all ,were so quick to talk about people who make less than you do in a year Like our military ,Teacher's ,police ,fire fighter's ,Etc.

You guy's for day's talked about the 47 % of low life no good trash ,this and that .

But,Good new's the day you have been waiting for is here,You guy's can continue to tell each other how pretty you are ,and how bad every one else is,Continue with your bashing the Majority of American's while you continue to be the problem,with out anyone to point that out .

After I made a Reaffiliation to somehing much more important to me than Politic's ,I think I will leave at least for awhile .

But,one point to remember,Politician's are America's worst enemy ,they must keep America divided because that is the only way to control the electoriate and assure their control.So while you are bad mouthing every one else for your own personal greed and ego Just Remember who is winning.it's not you.

For the misguided who think you are,RIGHT.

God's commands concerning the poor

This section collects some specific commands from Old and New Testaments on serving the poor.
Deut. 15:7. If there is a poor man among you, one of your brothers, in any of the towns of the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand to your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.
Deut. 26:12. When you have finished paying the complete tithe of your increase in the third year, the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the stranger, to the orphan and the widow, that they may eat in your towns, and be satisfied.

Lev. 19:19ff. Now when you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field, neither shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. Nor shall you glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather the fallen fruit of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the needy and for the stranger. I am the LORD your God.

Prov. 31:8ff. [Commandment to kings.] Open your mouth for the dumb, for the rights of all the unfortunate. Open your mouth, judge righteously, and defend the rights of the afflicted and needy.

Is. 58:66ff. Is this not the fast which I choose, to loosen the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and break every yoke? Is it not to divide your bread with the hungry, and bring the homeless poor into the house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh?

Jer. 22:3. Do justice and righteousness, and deliver the one who has been robbed from the power of his oppressor. Also do not mistreat or do violence to the stranger, the orphan, or the widow; and do not shed innocent blood in this place.

Luke 12:33. "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys."

Luke 3:11. And [John the Baptist] would answer and say to them, "Let the man with two tunics share with him who has none, and let him who has food do likewise."

Mt. 5:42. Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.

Commentary: The message here is really very simple: help the needy. It's not hard to understand; it's just hard to do.
And the message is continuous. It's in the Torah; it's in the Prophets and Psalms; it's in the Gospels; it's in the Epistles. How many churches emphasize serving the poor as much as the Bible itself does? Would the world look the way it does if all believers followed these commands?

Another thing to note about these verses is the lack of caveats-- the lack of excuses. None of them add "...once a year" or "...when you feel you can" or "...if they're moral" or "...unless they're black" or "...if they speak English". We have plenty of reasons (I'm sure you can think of a dozen) why we can't go out and feed the hungry, why we have to turn away the needy borrower-- and God help us, how many of us have sold so much as a lawnmower in order to have money to give away? But all those reasons belong to our sinful human nature, not to God. God just wants those needy people helped.

If you wanted to be a Biblical one-issue voter, you'd do well to make that one issue serving the poor.

Blessings on those who serve the poor

Serving poor may be The Right Thing To Do; but the Bible also associates it with material and spiritual reward. Here we'll look at the benefits promised to those who serve the poor; in the next section we'll examine the consequences of not doing so.
Prov. 22:9 He who is generous will be blessed, for he gives some of his food to the poor.
Jer. 22:16 "Did not your father eat and drink, and do justice and righteousness? Then it was well with him. He pled the cause of the afflicted and needy; then it was well. Is that not what it means to know Me?" declares the LORD.

Deut. 15:10. You shall give generously to [your poor brother], and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the LORD your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings.

Prov. 19:17. He who is gracious to a poor man lends to the LORD, and He will repay him for his good deed.

Jer. 7:5-7. "For, if you truly amend your ways and your deeds, if you truly practice justice between a man and his neighbor, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, and the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place, nor walk after other gods to your own ruin, then I will let you dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers forever and ever."

Is. 58:10. "And if you give yourself to the hungry, and satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then your light will rise in darkness, and your gloom will become like midday. And the LORD will continually guide you, and satisfy your desire in scorched places, and give strength to your bones; and you will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water whose waters do not fail."

Luke 14:12-14. "When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return, and repayment come to you. But when you give a reception, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, since they do not have the means to repay you; for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."

Luke 12:44. "Sell your possessions and give alms; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Mt. 19:20ff. The young man said to Him, "All these commands I have kept; what am I still lacking?" Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

Commentary: Americans like money; the American dream is about being rich. No wonder we're susceptible to religious quacks who promise riches to those who believe in God.
We do find promises of reward in the Bible-- to those who serve the poor. God's making a very simple proposal here: "You help the poor, and I'll repay it."

[Newt]

So you are using the Bible as your inspiration.
Here is our Dear Leader showing his ignorance once again. He probably didn't like Gods view on homosexuality either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi-V_ilJu0w

[Bunnyblaster]

You honestly have nothing constructive to add to any debate.

[Rabbithoundjb]

Again PMB you display your inability to comprehend what you read. None of those verses give you or any politician the right to tell someone how to help someone else. Not to mention those verses clearly point out that people should give of their excess from the good of their hearts. You can show me or no one else on here where the bible forces anyone to give to people who are not making any effort to better or provide for themselves or dictates that you will give period. If someone is trying I have NO problem helping them as much as I can. I don't need the government or you to tell me what the right thing to do is.

[Newt]

PM, I din't read your example, I seldom do but I read the opinion at the bottom of the page.

What would you do? I retired a few years back, my wife recently retired at age 67, as a result of Obamcare.

Recently it was brought to our attention that an elderly handicapped woman was needing some furniture so she could have her own apartment. I don't know the details but I think her husband had recently died.
We had a bed and mattress that we only used when the grand children visits so we decided to give it. It took several days before we could get her grown children, 40ish, to pick it up. Then my very giving wife decided she needed a couch. She called Central Services and found a good couch that was priced reasonable so she bought it. We waited for the family to contact us and no calls came. My wife being a can do type person insisted that I pick it. I did and we called the family. After three days, the couch was still in my pickup sitting in our garage. I needed my truck to haulf my dogs so finally my wife and I took the couch to her apartment and carried it in. During the process I could not help thinking, I'm 70 my wife is 67 and we are carrying a couch, risking injury, for a 63 year old woman who should still be in the work force.
This lady has COPD and uses Osygen.. When we entered her apartment the smoke was so thick the place smelled like tobacco warehouse.

That lady has five grown children, only one. according to the information given us by her daughter in law, is willing to help, sometimes. Hmmm? I wonder why perfect strangers are willing to help and her children avoid her. Only God knows, outside the family but I am suspicious.

Does my wife qualify for ? She gave care for such folks for almost fifty years.

[Rabbithoundjb]

Newt PMB is just making another feeble attempt to tug on heart stings though the pitty prism. The passages of scripture where on laying out what the CHARACTER of people should be. To me the person who is able to help and chooses not to is no worse than the person who could help themself and chooses not to and even worse is the person who could help themself and feels they are entitled to someone else taking care of them.