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BullRooster
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OBAMA Wins!!!!!!!

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I for one did NOT vote for Obama and really can't inderstand why people in our country feels like he deserves 4 more years. I am not looking to bash people or be bashed by others. Everyone has their opinion. My question is this "What has Obama accomplished in the last four years that persuaded you to vote for him a second term?"

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Nothing.
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Here is the short list I don't expect you will read it and sure don't expect many of you to agree with it ,But I really don't care over half of America Doe's .

I just hope the Prseident -stop's trying to be so bipartisan,,and don't negotiate wih these do Noting Republican's. If America wanted the do nothing party they would have voted for them.

President Obama Improved the Economy and Reduced the Debt

1. 3,680,000 private sector jobs created since the end of the Bush Great Recession ref ref
2. Expanded government’s fight against fraud in Financial ref, Federal Contractor ref and Health Care areas ref
3. $2,000,000,000,000 in deficit reduction ref
4. He saved the economy from ruin (until the Tea Party took over Congress) with a stimulus that was as large as possible given the political realities ref
5. Saved the US Auto Industry ref, ref
6. Health Care Reform ref
7. Reduced military spending by $500,000,000,000 ref

President Obama Reigned in Wall Street Excesses

8. Wall Street Reform ref ref ref
9. Leaned on the banks to recover almost all “bailout money” with interest ref ref
10. Saved the world from global financial collapse ref ref
11. Ordered 65 executives who took bailout money to cut their own pay until they paid back all bailout money. ref

President Obama Made America Safer

12. Killed Osama Bin Laden ref
13. Killed a whole generation of al Qaeda leaders ref
14. Stopped numerous terrorist attacks in this country ref ref
15. Authorized and oversaw a secret mission by SEAL Team Six to rescue two hostages held by Somali pirates. ref
16. Unified the world against Iran and brought unprecedented united international pressure against Iran's nuclear bomb potential ref
17. More deportations per year than Bush ref
18. Hired more border patrol agents than Bush ref

President Obama Reduced Taxes

19. Tax rates for average working families are the lowest since 1950. ref
20. Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, cut taxes for 95% of America's working families. ref
21. Reduced Social Security Taxes for 2011 and 2012 ref

President Obama Brought More Efficiency to the Federal Government

22. Smaller Government ref ref
23. Fewer regulations than Bush ref

President Obama Strengthened Personal Liberties

24. Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act; Instituted equal pay for women. ref, ref, ref
25. Expanded funding for the Violence Against Women Act. ref
26. Support’s states’ right on medical marijuana ref
27. Repealed “Don’t ask don’t tell” refref
28. Appointed more openly gay officials than anyone in history. ref
29. Extended benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees. ref
30. Changed HUD rules to prohibit gender and sexual orientation-based discrimination in housing ref
31. Publicly expressed support for the right to enter into a same-sex marriage. ref
32. Implemented much of Dream Act via Executive Order ref
33. Appointed two pro-choice women to the Supreme Court ref

President Obama Helped Make the World a Safer, More Democratic, and More American Friendly Place

34. Ended the war in Iraq ref
35. Established a date for transferring Afghanistan fighting to Afghanis. ref
36. Toppled Gadhafi without an American casualty ref
37. Fired the first salvo of the Arab Spring with his address in Cairo no less ref
38. Has the Arab League watching Syria ref
39. Presided over democratic revolutions in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, and Bahrain
40. Helped to restore America's reputation around the world as a global leader that does the "right thing" in world affairs, at least according to the rest of the world. ref ref
41. On his second day in office, he signed a detailed Executive Order that banned torture, reversed all Bush torture policies, and put the United States in compliance with the Geneva Convention. ref ref
42. Three new trade agreements ref

President Obama Increased Respect and Public Support for American Soldiers

43. Increased veterans/benefits every year ref ref
44. Along with Congressional Democrats, not only reauthorized families of fallen soldiers to be able to visit when the body arrives at Dover AFB, but also provided funding for it. Ended the media blackout on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers. ref ref
45. Signed the Democratic-sponsored Post-9/11 GI Bill, also known as GI Bill 2.0 ref

President Obama Invested in Education

46. Invested in college students: 1) by repeatedly increased funding for student financial aid, and at the same time cut the banks completely out of the process. ref ref ref 2) by reforming student loan program, to make it possible for students to refinance at a lower rate. ref and 3) by overseeing an expansion of the Pell Grants program, to expand opportunity for low income students to go to college. ref
47. Invested in primary education: Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act , invested heavily in elementary, secondary and post-secondary education. ref
48. Oversaw major expansion of broadband availability in K-12 schools nationwide ref
49. Oversaw major expansion in school construction. ref
50. Also through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he put $5 billion into early education, including Head Start. ref

President Obama Protected What We Eat, Drink and Breathe.

51. Strengthened environmental protection via new laws and policies. ref ref ref ref ref ref ref.
52. Fast-tracked regulations to dramatically increase fuel efficiency standards ref ref
53. Strengthened the bond between clean energy and commerce by overseeing establishment of an Energy Partnership for the Americas, to create more markets for American-made biofuels and green energy technologies. ref Oversaw the creation of an initiative that converts old factories and manufacturing centers into new clean technology centers. ref
54. Pushed through a tax credit to help people buy plug-in hybrid cars. ref
55. Obama EPA reversed a Bush-era decision to allow the largest mountaintop removal project in US history. ref
56. Turned America toward native sources of renewal energy Ordered energy plants to prepare to produce at least 15% of all energy through renewable resources like wind and solar, by 2021. ref (As you can see, Republicans are trying hard to kill it.)
57. Created a program to develop renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that will produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents. ref
58. Bypassed Republican opposition in Congress and ordered EPA to begin regulating and measuring carbon emissions. ref
59. Oversaw doubling federal spending on clean energy research. ref
60. Reengaged in the climate change and greenhouse gas emissions agreements talks, and proposed one himself. He also addressed the U.N. Climate Change Conference, officially reversing the Bush era stance that climate change was a “hoax.” .

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Man with all of that how is that less people are employed now than when he took office. The US labor perticipation rate is through the floor, 17 million more on food stamps, millions on cronic unemployment, companies beginning to announce layoffs since he won re-elction, federal deficit tripled, national debt 6 trillion larger, credit agencies threatening to lower the US credit rating again. Man if he had done a bad job we really would be in trouble, LMAO!! Keep drinking the kool-aid the drowning is on the way.

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Job Fairs.
Obama gonna give me a Cell phone and pay my car payment.
Reality is about to set in.

CHICAGO (CBS) – Thousands of people waited in line for hours Friday morning at Kennedy-King College, to attend a job fair hosted by the city of Chicago, but many of those people left upset, when they found out the job fair wasn’t quite what they were expecting.

WBBM Newsradio’s Bernie Tafoya reports the line for the job fair went down 63rd Street, around the corner, and about a half block north on Halsted Street, and many of the people in line said they were expecting to be interviewed for jobs with the city and its sister agencies, not simply find out how to apply.

Mayor Emanuel made an unscheduled stop at the event and talked to job seekers, who he said appreciated the opportunity. He said any frustration was the frustration of people who have been out of work for two or three years.

Those waiting in line were hungry for jobs, and had brought along résumés, hoping to make an impression, even if it meant arriving at 3 a.m.

But some booths weren’t even taking résumés, and officials were not conducting job interviews or hiring anyone on the spot. CBS 2’s Susanna Song reports the event was more about networking and learning about available positions with the city and its sister agencies.

Anthony Rodgers, who was first in line at 3 a.m., said, “I need a job. I need a job, that’s the bottom line. … The best way to get a job? Be there before your employer’s there.”

Some of those in line already have jobs, but are barely making enough money to stay afloat, so they’re looking for more work.

Marie Cunningham said she’s “a single mom trying to get more income right now, because part-time is just not enough. It’s not meeting all my needs, so now I need to try to get something else.”

She said she’s hoping to get a job with the CTA or the Chicago Park District.

The city of Chicago and its sister agencies are hiring for positions ranging from seasonal jobs to full-time employment. The jobs range from police officers to bus drivers to working for the city’s inspector general.

Those attending the job fair were able to drop off résumés with representatives on site, or submit applications online at computers provided in the back of the room.

But those attending shouldn’t expect to be hired on the spot.

Chrissy Batorski, with the city’s Human Resources Department, said, “A lot of the sister agencies, including the city of Chicago, have a required hire plan that we have to abide by, so on-the-spot jobs is not gonna really happen.”

That stunned some job seekers who were expecting more from Friday’s job fair.

Cherrie Moore said, “They just got fliers of resources, things we could have got on the Internet, things we probably already know about.”

Rodney Booker said, “I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.”

Job seeker Keyonya Mills was frustrated by the miscommunication. “They could have said, go online, fill out the application. If you do not know how to fill out a application, come to Kennedy-King College and we’ll train you. They have people wrapped around this entire building thinking this is a job fair and this is not a job fair”, Mills said.

However, others who stood in line for the job fair had a different view.

Bobby Jefferson said, even though people won’t be hired on the spot, the event was worth the long lines.

“Of course; I’m one step closer,” he said.

City human resources officials apologized for not being more clear what was going to take place at the job fair.

The salaries for available city jobs featured at the job fair range from $30,000 to $110,000 a year. The job fair was scheduled to run until 1 p.m. Friday, but organizers said they’d keep it open longer if people are interested.

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Pine Mt,

1. How many more people TOTAL are employed now than when Obama took office?
2. Agreed
3. If the deficit is almost doubled how does than equate to a reduction?
4. This one is debatable based on how some of the money was spent......dare I say Big Bird.
5. Should have let them file bankruptcy and restructure like every other company in the U.S. has to.......and yea notice I live in Michigan.
6. Good idea in theory until it bankrupts us as a country.......but he won't be around for that part.
7. Again debatable depending on where you stand.
8. Some of this is good and some of it may overstep just a tad.
9. Probably should have since they loaned out the money same as a bank would.
10. You're kinda stretching for this one.
11. Refer to # 9 again, and again dipping their hands into places they may not belong.
12. Yep due to the work of our military who's budget he continually wants to cut, who's people he doesn't support and/or leaves do die, also with the ground work laid out in part by the people before him & I would never give the credit to him or Bush or any other sitting president cause they all would have made the same call.......except Clinton.
13. Refer to # 12.
14. Again, refer to # 12. He did no more or less than Bush did.....except again leaving our embassador to die.
15. So would most sitting presidents......and he oversaw or watched on a tv screen.
16. So why are they still developing them and shooting down our drones.
17. Who put the border security in place?
18. And then ties their hands or deports them to be caught again another day with no real reprocutions......same as every other president.
19. I'm an average working family and I pay more so I don't know your definition of average I guess.


Look I could answer them all but bottom line the man isn't perfect and people like you try to give him credit for anything and everything including the sun coming up in the morning while blindly blaming everyone else for anything that's a negative. That's not being real, that's just being ignorant.
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I have heard no one say this President is perfect ,,every one know's that .

Just like ,I don't expect Republican's, to believe anything he has done for you.

But,The Majority of American's disagree with most of you ,and that is a good thing ,I believe in disagreement ,no one would ever learn anything if every one agreed on every thing.I learn something from you guy's every day.

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Pine Mt Beagles wrote:I have heard no one say this President is perfect ,,every one know's that .

Just like ,I don't expect Republican's, to believe anything he has done for you.

But,The Majority of American's disagree with most of you ,and that is a good thing ,I believe in disagreement ,no one would ever learn anything if every one agreed on every thing.I learn something from you guy's every day.
He's perfect in your eyes. You have never made one post about Obama that doesn't glorify his presidency. If you can refer to a post you've made doing so, I will gladly apologize. Take a sniff of what you're shoveling. The majority of Americans? 8 million fewer voters showed up at the polls. That tells me that people want something different than whats being offered. The majority that voted Obama back into office sticks out like a turd in a punchbowl. Look at the demographics and come to your own conclusion.

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Where do you get your information? I agree with some but most, to me, seem to be misleading to say the least. As you wrote "Bypassed Republican opposition in Congress and ordered EPA to begin regulating and measuring carbon emissions." This has killed the coal industry and has effected millions of jobs. The strict regulations have created nothing but problems. I don't understand how the american people think their lights stay one day in and day out. Yes it seems the rates go up but don't eveything. It's called inflation. With these new regulations electricty is only going to get more expensive. Then everyone will whine about paying their power bill. Coal is one of this great countries greatest natural resource. Why not use it.

I truly believe that Obama care will do nothing but create hardship for the ones who already have insurance through their employer. I am not talking about all these lazy people who milk the system everyday and get free healthcare. Free for them but not for me. We will see what happens in the next four years. We are stuck with him now and there is nothing we can do about it. Sad but true. I only hope that I am wrong but the way things went the first four years, its not looking good.

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I was just notified by my employer today that one of the provisions in Obama care is that I will be taxed for the cost of my insurance plan. Our company is self insured and I now have to pay taxes on an additional $30,000.00! Thanks for helping me Obama! Just what I wanted to do is pay more taxes! And everybody thought this was free health care! LOL!

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Our Insurance could go up by $20 to $30 a week to Cover ADMINISTRATION COSTS OF ACA how is THAT helping me??? Oh and the deductable will go up and the overall pay out will go down by 20% and thats Supposed to HELP???? Were is the Free part of this Oh thats Right it will only be Free if i quit my Job lose everything or become a minority!!!! then the middle calss or whats left of them will pay for it by the tax increase thats right NOW i will have to pay INCOME tax on my medical insurance!!! so not only will my income tax go up 4% to 18% but now my taxable income will go up too i wont make any more in fact i will take home up to $7.500 a year LESS....How is that AFFORDABLE??????
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TC wrote:Our Insurance could go up by $20 to $30 a week to Cover ADMINISTRATION COSTS OF ACA how is THAT helping me??? Oh and the deductable will go up and the overall pay out will go down by 20% and thats Supposed to HELP???? Were is the Free part of this Oh thats Right it will only be Free if i quit my Job lose everything or become a minority!!!! then the middle calss or whats left of them will pay for it by the tax increase thats right NOW i will have to pay INCOME tax on my medical insurance!!! so not only will my income tax go up 4% to 18% but now my taxable income will go up too i wont make any more in fact i will take home up to $7.500 a year LESS....How is that AFFORDABLE??????
TC, you answered your own question. It will become less affordable to you so it can become free to someone else who didn't contribute in the 1st place. It's been my argument all along, how are those that don't pay now going to contribute after Obamacare kicks in? On top of that, we'll be responsible for funding a huge government agency that will cost us millions.

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Pine Lakes wrote:
TC wrote:Our Insurance could go up by $20 to $30 a week to Cover ADMINISTRATION COSTS OF ACA how is THAT helping me??? Oh and the deductable will go up and the overall pay out will go down by 20% and thats Supposed to HELP???? Were is the Free part of this Oh thats Right it will only be Free if i quit my Job lose everything or become a minority!!!! then the middle calss or whats left of them will pay for it by the tax increase thats right NOW i will have to pay INCOME tax on my medical insurance!!! so not only will my income tax go up 4% to 18% but now my taxable income will go up too i wont make any more in fact i will take home up to $7.500 a year LESS....How is that AFFORDABLE??????
TC, you answered your own question. It will become less affordable to you so it can become free to someone else who didn't contribute in the 1st place. It's been my argument all along, how are those that don't pay now going to contribute after Obamacare kicks in? On top of that, we'll be responsible for funding a huge government agency that will cost us millions.
Yup Should have posted it in the Form of a Question to Rufus and his Cronies!!! Waht is Done is Done and I will have to Live with it Dont mean i have to like it At all and put the Blame on all those that voted for the idiot in charge!!
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Boys these Obama voters are not going to admit why they vote that way but the answer is simple. The young don't know any better, the blacks turned out in record numbers because he is black, face the fact and he has expanded entitlements, the mexicans did as they have done for years the republican gets about 30% the number here actually working adding to the revenue while the democrats get handout crowd. I know this to be true because my oldest sister is married to a mexican, a legal, hard working, tax paying, positive contributer and a fine fellow who voted for Romney, in fact my sister could learn some work ethic from him but thats another story. Now you combine that with the immoral, anti-god, sorry azz whites on multi=generation tax payer handouts and a few working class whites who obviously can't see the forest for the trees and you have your democrat electorate.

ENTITLEMENT, ANTI-RELIGION, ANTI-WORK, ANTI RESPONSIBILTY, NO MORALS, NO ETHICS, NO SUBSTANCE. Now I will get slammed for saying it because people just don't like the truth. We the group that cares about our families, future generations and the health of the country are now out numbered thats just the reality.

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And I am not a Rep or Dem and feel that anyone who sits and debates this mess is in need of medical help. Have them look at your head. Anyone who thinks either party is looking out for their well being is crazy as they come. Once elected to whatever party they become pawns of special interest and big money and nothing else. I will say this about the current situation. Obama was left with a mess and that came from a party who cared nothing about what was good for the working class of people. Please don't forget that Bush started a war with a country that did nothing to us, he hired a company (Halaburton) to provide support for the troops who decided to move their headquarters to another country and quit paying US taxes. He deregulated alot within the financial world which lead to the banking crisis and greed among the top brass. Alot of the current debt is a result of Bush policies or lack of. Do I vote ? Yes I do. Do I vote for president ? Haven't for quite awhile since felt no one worth the job was running. Then John McCain comes along who would have made a great president and who does he take on the ticket with him ? A idiot. You want to send a message to the world ? Buy American. That is cars, trucks, and goods. Put Walmart into a hurt and watch China take notice. Take the time to read labels and if doesn't say made in America don't buy it. It seems to me that more people want to sit and bitc_ but few want to act. Voting is not acting by the way. Your vote sends one persons into the pockets of special interest and big money. Act on your own.

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