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All anyone has to remember is that if you disagree with Obama or his policies, try to hold him accountable for anything.Is that you are a racist or it's George Bushs fault or both.Makes sense when you look at it that way!!!!!
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Rabbithoundjb
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No woods what I am saying is there is enough known about benghazi too know there was NO protest, it had nothing to do with a video and it was a terrorist act and Obama and his administration lied about it just like fast and furious, for you to act like we are waiting on some BS investigation shows your level or lack of objectivity and then for you to expect me to believe your employment story after that, well I was born at night but it was not last night. LMAO!!!!!!
You say the reason education was #1 when Romney was governor was because of the governor before him but all of you leftist blame the economic collapse on Bush because it happened on his watch even though the entitlement legislation that led to it was during Clinton presidency. You see the hippocrisy in that.
You say the reason education was #1 when Romney was governor was because of the governor before him but all of you leftist blame the economic collapse on Bush because it happened on his watch even though the entitlement legislation that led to it was during Clinton presidency. You see the hippocrisy in that.
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by Rabbithoundjb » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:00 am
So woods what did Romney lie about, be specific.
Every thing he said period he never made a true statement in the entire campaign.---Remember 47 % -of American's are victim's and free loader's.--just to name one of his lies.
I find it funny that Obama can lie about 4 americans being killed in terrorist attack in benghazi and you vote for him and you claim you didn't vote for Romney because he lied. As for the race thing it is a fact that the the Black and hispanic turnout in 08 and 2012 is by far the largest ever. We will check that when the next white runs for president on the democrat ticket and see if they still turn out like they did for Obama since race had nothing to do with it. I also believe their where people who voted against him because he was black too, see that just makes common sense. If you don't think entitlements are the reason he got elected you are fooling yourself.
And Rabbit
Race was a big factor because of the Republican Party trying to suppress the vote,,in Black and hispanic neighborhood's,,Fact's.
The Reason The President won the election along with senator's and some congress-member's,, Actually the biggest one party win since 1964,,,the reason for that is simple ,,Republican's have nothing to offer no idea's just hate,,,American's voted for the Democrat's policies,and plan's for the future .it is clear America does not want the Do Nothing Republican's at this time in our history ,,in -4-year's it might be different -->if they have a Candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton ,,
So woods what did Romney lie about, be specific.
Every thing he said period he never made a true statement in the entire campaign.---Remember 47 % -of American's are victim's and free loader's.--just to name one of his lies.
I find it funny that Obama can lie about 4 americans being killed in terrorist attack in benghazi and you vote for him and you claim you didn't vote for Romney because he lied. As for the race thing it is a fact that the the Black and hispanic turnout in 08 and 2012 is by far the largest ever. We will check that when the next white runs for president on the democrat ticket and see if they still turn out like they did for Obama since race had nothing to do with it. I also believe their where people who voted against him because he was black too, see that just makes common sense. If you don't think entitlements are the reason he got elected you are fooling yourself.
And Rabbit
Race was a big factor because of the Republican Party trying to suppress the vote,,in Black and hispanic neighborhood's,,Fact's.
The Reason The President won the election along with senator's and some congress-member's,, Actually the biggest one party win since 1964,,,the reason for that is simple ,,Republican's have nothing to offer no idea's just hate,,,American's voted for the Democrat's policies,and plan's for the future .it is clear America does not want the Do Nothing Republican's at this time in our history ,,in -4-year's it might be different -->if they have a Candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton ,,
If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered
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No Rabbit you have no objectivity. There is a congressional hearing scheduled for next Thursday that will tell the story of Benghazi. What you are doing is speculating from bits and pieces that you have heard, as far as my employment you don't have to believe that you can look on the Internet about the Saudi deal. Dow is pretty open about its business practices. It seems to me if its not what you want to hear that it's not true. Remember there is only one truth and it tends to come out. If they covered up bengazi it will come out. No it's not funny about me giving someone else credit where credit is due and you never heard me say anything was bush's fault. My point since the republican primary if Thier had been a viable candidate picked he would have won instead we had Mitt the liar. Now I am done with it I won't argue with someone who disputes things cause well he just don't want to believe it.
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Rabbithoundjb
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Mitt the lier, what has Obama promised that he has delivered, cutting the budget in half, wait no, reduce the deficit, ah no again, 500,000 jobs a month if the stimulas is passed, shovel ready jobs, around 5%unemployment by now if the stimulas is passed, no new taxes on anyone making less than 250.000 and what did the supreme court decide the mandate is in the affordable care act. HHHHMMMM ALL LIES.
Your leaving the talk because when it comes to lieing Romney is not in Obamas league, so I know and you know thats not why you voted for Obama. I have no idea why but thats not the reason.
Your leaving the talk because when it comes to lieing Romney is not in Obamas league, so I know and you know thats not why you voted for Obama. I have no idea why but thats not the reason.
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Pine Mt, what did they do to try to repress minority votes?
Bunnyblaster
"You can't change the past but you can ruin the present by worrying about the future."
"You can't change the past but you can ruin the present by worrying about the future."
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Now thats funny looking at pinemutt for knowledge!!!!
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bluemouse wrote:Now thats funny looking at pinemutt for knowledge!!!!
I anxiously await the answer................
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The Republican Party’s war on Democratic voting blocks is like a game of three-dimensional chess in which their strategies are intended to remain dormant until Election Day, and in the following days when votes are officially counted.
But their game plan is simple. They want to discourage voters by complicating every step for new and existing voters from specific blue cohorts, such as students, poor people and minorities. They’ve adopted new laws or rules that target pathways surrounding polling place voting, while keeping voting by mail—a longtime GOP strategy—free from similar rules. And they are spreading fears that there will be vastly more policing of the process to scare away voters, when in reality that’s not likely to be the case.
While most of the GOP’s voter suppression strategies are designed to erupt in November, it is now possible to identify at least three major areas where hundreds of thousands of likely Democratic votes have already been thwarted—and where steps to reverse that process, if possible, must be taken soon before fall voter registration deadlines kick in.
What follows are three ways Republicans have already impacted voting in 2012—even though most of their political chess moves are not intended to kick in until Election Day.
1. Criminalize Voter Registration Drives
This strategy can best be seen in—surprise—Florida. According to a new report by Project Vote, at least 23 states have new rules for groups that conduct voter registration drives. The strictest of these require volunteers to undergo state trainings, set tight timetables for turning in registration applications and ban paying field workers based on the number of registrations filed. These kinds of new rules target groups like Project Vote, which once assisted low-income advocates such as ACORN in its drives.
Florida’s voter registration restrictions, which went into effect July 2011 and stayed in effect until this June (when they were thrown out by a federal court) also had big fines for any mistakes made with registration forms. A recent New York Times report noted that groups that previously registered voters in Florida, such as the League of Women Voters, Rock the Vote and Florida Public Interest Research Group (PIRG), stopped while the law was in effect. Compared to this period a year before the 2008 election, Florida has 250,000 fewer new Democratic registrants, the Times said.
A just-released paper by Dartmouth College’s Michael Herron and the University of Florida’s Daniel Smith traces the disproportionate impact of Florida’s suppression laws on likely Democrats. It noted that Rock the Vote registered 140,000 people in 2008, “primarily college students,” but did not resume registering voters once the new law took effect in July 2011. It found there were 79,000 fewer new voter registration applications between 2007 and 2011, of which 15,000 fewer applications were from people under 21. While Florida’s 2011 election law reforms affected voters across all ethnic groups, the political scientists found it was “more pronounced for Democratic registrants.”
While voter registration groups have been busy in Florida since early June’s federal court ruling, they still lost a year—thanks to the GOP. Floridians who are eligible to vote must register 29 days before the November election, so there is still time left. But the GOP didn’t stop there. If you moved from one county to another in Florida since the last election, you have to file a change of address form, or else you will be given a provisional ballot on Election Day.
Academics expect Florida will issue 300,000 provisional ballots on Election Day, a large number that will slow down polling place voting. Moreover, Florida’s November ballot will be the longest ever—also because of legislative changes—and that too will mean polling place delays. None of these complicating steps needed to happen. They were adopted by Republicans who want to erect barriers.
In Wisconsin, the GOP-controlled Legislature passed a law that requires anyone registering voters to be certified by the local election office where that new voter is a resident. Before the law, those working on registration drives could get a statewide certification. This new local requirement “is a real pain,” said Andrea Kaminski of the Wisconsin’s League of Women Voters, because the state has 1,750 local election jurisdictions. “I can tell you the numbers, but I can tell you it has hurt our efforts.”
2. Disenfranchise Felons—Again
Florida’s shady reputation extends to its shameful treatment of former felons, of whom an estimated 200,000 lost their right to vote in 2012 because the state’s GOP Tea Party Governor Rick Scott and legislature reversed a voting rights reform from the previous governor, moderate Republican Charlie Crist. In 2011, Scott and the GOP passed a law that requires nonviolent offenders who have completed their sentence to wait five years before applying for a clemency board hearing to regain voting rights. All other former offenders must wait seven years.
According to the Sentencing Project’s latest numbers, as of 2010 there were 1.3 million ex-felons living in Florida—almost one out of every 10 voting-age adults. A recent report in the Nation estimated that 200,000 former felons would have been eligible to vote this fall were it not for the state’s new disenfranchisement policy. “Blacks are 13 percent of registered voters in Florida, but 23 percent of disenfranchised felons,” it said.
Florida is not alone in its treatment of former felons when it comes to voting rights. In Virginia, another 2012 swing state, there are about 350,000 ex-felons who have not regained their voting rights. And in Iowa, another swing state, there are at least 12,000 parolees and federal probationers, according to the Sentencing Project, many of whom just lost their voting rights. Last year, Iowa’s new Republican Governor, Terry Branstad, rescinded an executive order that had returned voting rights to ex-felons.
Nationally, there are 5.85 million disenfranchised felons, the Sentencing Project reports, with three-quarters living outside prisons and jails. Curiously, ex-felons are not a monolithic Democratic voting block, said Michael McDonald of George Mason University, a nationally known expert on voter turnout. Many who regain their voting rights are white-collar criminals who support Republicans. However, in states such as Florida, a disproportionate number come from communities of color where voting histories typically are pro-Democrat.
3. Spread Propaganda That Voters Will Be Policed
Every war has a propaganda component and the GOP’s war on Democratic voters is no exception. In Florida, Colorado, Michigan, Kansas and New Mexico, top state election officials have decried the alleged presence of tens of thousands of non-citizens on their voting rolls, which would be illegal. (The reality is the numbers are very small.) They have said the state must take steps to police the rolls and polls. This deliberate posturing has already had a negative impact on voters, according to Florida’s Ion Sancho, who is the supervisor of elections in Leon County, where the state capital is located.
In Florida, Scott and his handpicked secretary of state this summer claimed that there were more than 180,000 non-citizens on voter rolls and a massive purge was needed. They later took back that assertion, walking back from the poised purge and saying they’d study the issue after November. But the Florida GOP knew exactly what it was doing by making the false claims and preying on people’s fears. Sancho said his office keeps getting calls from would-be voters who think they lack the proper identifying documents to get a ballot in November.
“The newspapers talked about a purge—there wasn’t a purge,” he said. “And Florida did not change its voter ID law. But all this information is confusing young voters, confusing minorities, and nothing has changed [with voter ID requirements]. Nothing.”
Worse, where there have been changes in voting procedures, such as with moved or consolidated polling places after state and congressional redistricting, new requirements for filing change-of-address forms, and shortened early voting periods and new weekend voting hours, the state has yet to launch any public education efforts to avoid chaos this fall.
“Where are the public education efforts by the secretary of state,” Sancho asks. “Where are the public service ads in the state of Florida?” The answer is they are not on the air—not yet. And that is largely true in other swing states like Pennsylvania, where the state is now unrolling a new voter ID program that may affect hundreds of thousands of urban voters who do not have driver’s licenses.
But President Obama is not the only one who knows this. The Republican Party also knows it. That is why they have been working since 2009 to tilt the electoral rules and playing field to their benefit. And with two months to go until Election Day, there’s plenty of evidence that tens of thousands of likely Democratic voters are already being thwarted in 2012’s swing states.
But ,the President won the election-with a majority of the popular vote -and it was more than 47 % that Romney said was free loader's.
The people who voted for the President,were old,young,rich ,poor,middle class and low income ,women ,veteran's,all catagories of people .More white evangelical's -voted for the President this time than the last.
27 % of registered voter's say they are Republican,so the old Republican ,tactic of fear and smear and creating division,pitting the poor against the elite,class war fare,Just want work anymore ,Don't misunder stand I am not 100 % for the Democrat's either but,at this time the Democrat's are more in touch with America.
But their game plan is simple. They want to discourage voters by complicating every step for new and existing voters from specific blue cohorts, such as students, poor people and minorities. They’ve adopted new laws or rules that target pathways surrounding polling place voting, while keeping voting by mail—a longtime GOP strategy—free from similar rules. And they are spreading fears that there will be vastly more policing of the process to scare away voters, when in reality that’s not likely to be the case.
While most of the GOP’s voter suppression strategies are designed to erupt in November, it is now possible to identify at least three major areas where hundreds of thousands of likely Democratic votes have already been thwarted—and where steps to reverse that process, if possible, must be taken soon before fall voter registration deadlines kick in.
What follows are three ways Republicans have already impacted voting in 2012—even though most of their political chess moves are not intended to kick in until Election Day.
1. Criminalize Voter Registration Drives
This strategy can best be seen in—surprise—Florida. According to a new report by Project Vote, at least 23 states have new rules for groups that conduct voter registration drives. The strictest of these require volunteers to undergo state trainings, set tight timetables for turning in registration applications and ban paying field workers based on the number of registrations filed. These kinds of new rules target groups like Project Vote, which once assisted low-income advocates such as ACORN in its drives.
Florida’s voter registration restrictions, which went into effect July 2011 and stayed in effect until this June (when they were thrown out by a federal court) also had big fines for any mistakes made with registration forms. A recent New York Times report noted that groups that previously registered voters in Florida, such as the League of Women Voters, Rock the Vote and Florida Public Interest Research Group (PIRG), stopped while the law was in effect. Compared to this period a year before the 2008 election, Florida has 250,000 fewer new Democratic registrants, the Times said.
A just-released paper by Dartmouth College’s Michael Herron and the University of Florida’s Daniel Smith traces the disproportionate impact of Florida’s suppression laws on likely Democrats. It noted that Rock the Vote registered 140,000 people in 2008, “primarily college students,” but did not resume registering voters once the new law took effect in July 2011. It found there were 79,000 fewer new voter registration applications between 2007 and 2011, of which 15,000 fewer applications were from people under 21. While Florida’s 2011 election law reforms affected voters across all ethnic groups, the political scientists found it was “more pronounced for Democratic registrants.”
While voter registration groups have been busy in Florida since early June’s federal court ruling, they still lost a year—thanks to the GOP. Floridians who are eligible to vote must register 29 days before the November election, so there is still time left. But the GOP didn’t stop there. If you moved from one county to another in Florida since the last election, you have to file a change of address form, or else you will be given a provisional ballot on Election Day.
Academics expect Florida will issue 300,000 provisional ballots on Election Day, a large number that will slow down polling place voting. Moreover, Florida’s November ballot will be the longest ever—also because of legislative changes—and that too will mean polling place delays. None of these complicating steps needed to happen. They were adopted by Republicans who want to erect barriers.
In Wisconsin, the GOP-controlled Legislature passed a law that requires anyone registering voters to be certified by the local election office where that new voter is a resident. Before the law, those working on registration drives could get a statewide certification. This new local requirement “is a real pain,” said Andrea Kaminski of the Wisconsin’s League of Women Voters, because the state has 1,750 local election jurisdictions. “I can tell you the numbers, but I can tell you it has hurt our efforts.”
2. Disenfranchise Felons—Again
Florida’s shady reputation extends to its shameful treatment of former felons, of whom an estimated 200,000 lost their right to vote in 2012 because the state’s GOP Tea Party Governor Rick Scott and legislature reversed a voting rights reform from the previous governor, moderate Republican Charlie Crist. In 2011, Scott and the GOP passed a law that requires nonviolent offenders who have completed their sentence to wait five years before applying for a clemency board hearing to regain voting rights. All other former offenders must wait seven years.
According to the Sentencing Project’s latest numbers, as of 2010 there were 1.3 million ex-felons living in Florida—almost one out of every 10 voting-age adults. A recent report in the Nation estimated that 200,000 former felons would have been eligible to vote this fall were it not for the state’s new disenfranchisement policy. “Blacks are 13 percent of registered voters in Florida, but 23 percent of disenfranchised felons,” it said.
Florida is not alone in its treatment of former felons when it comes to voting rights. In Virginia, another 2012 swing state, there are about 350,000 ex-felons who have not regained their voting rights. And in Iowa, another swing state, there are at least 12,000 parolees and federal probationers, according to the Sentencing Project, many of whom just lost their voting rights. Last year, Iowa’s new Republican Governor, Terry Branstad, rescinded an executive order that had returned voting rights to ex-felons.
Nationally, there are 5.85 million disenfranchised felons, the Sentencing Project reports, with three-quarters living outside prisons and jails. Curiously, ex-felons are not a monolithic Democratic voting block, said Michael McDonald of George Mason University, a nationally known expert on voter turnout. Many who regain their voting rights are white-collar criminals who support Republicans. However, in states such as Florida, a disproportionate number come from communities of color where voting histories typically are pro-Democrat.
3. Spread Propaganda That Voters Will Be Policed
Every war has a propaganda component and the GOP’s war on Democratic voters is no exception. In Florida, Colorado, Michigan, Kansas and New Mexico, top state election officials have decried the alleged presence of tens of thousands of non-citizens on their voting rolls, which would be illegal. (The reality is the numbers are very small.) They have said the state must take steps to police the rolls and polls. This deliberate posturing has already had a negative impact on voters, according to Florida’s Ion Sancho, who is the supervisor of elections in Leon County, where the state capital is located.
In Florida, Scott and his handpicked secretary of state this summer claimed that there were more than 180,000 non-citizens on voter rolls and a massive purge was needed. They later took back that assertion, walking back from the poised purge and saying they’d study the issue after November. But the Florida GOP knew exactly what it was doing by making the false claims and preying on people’s fears. Sancho said his office keeps getting calls from would-be voters who think they lack the proper identifying documents to get a ballot in November.
“The newspapers talked about a purge—there wasn’t a purge,” he said. “And Florida did not change its voter ID law. But all this information is confusing young voters, confusing minorities, and nothing has changed [with voter ID requirements]. Nothing.”
Worse, where there have been changes in voting procedures, such as with moved or consolidated polling places after state and congressional redistricting, new requirements for filing change-of-address forms, and shortened early voting periods and new weekend voting hours, the state has yet to launch any public education efforts to avoid chaos this fall.
“Where are the public education efforts by the secretary of state,” Sancho asks. “Where are the public service ads in the state of Florida?” The answer is they are not on the air—not yet. And that is largely true in other swing states like Pennsylvania, where the state is now unrolling a new voter ID program that may affect hundreds of thousands of urban voters who do not have driver’s licenses.
But President Obama is not the only one who knows this. The Republican Party also knows it. That is why they have been working since 2009 to tilt the electoral rules and playing field to their benefit. And with two months to go until Election Day, there’s plenty of evidence that tens of thousands of likely Democratic voters are already being thwarted in 2012’s swing states.
But ,the President won the election-with a majority of the popular vote -and it was more than 47 % that Romney said was free loader's.
The people who voted for the President,were old,young,rich ,poor,middle class and low income ,women ,veteran's,all catagories of people .More white evangelical's -voted for the President this time than the last.
27 % of registered voter's say they are Republican,so the old Republican ,tactic of fear and smear and creating division,pitting the poor against the elite,class war fare,Just want work anymore ,Don't misunder stand I am not 100 % for the Democrat's either but,at this time the Democrat's are more in touch with America.
If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered
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Rabbithoundjb
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More leftist BS. LMAO!!!!!!
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Pine Mt Beagles
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Now Rabbit
You were not laughing Tuesday,
You were not laughing Tuesday,
If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered
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Pine Lakes
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Holy Christ! You people amaze me with your stupidity. Noone has mentioned that "everyone who votes for a democrat gets handouts". Please refer to one post that has made that claim. What we're trying to explain to you is that is what you are supporting by voting for Obama. Government dependency is a problem that you dems and liberals just ignore, act like it isn't a problem, or actually believe in. Your party is run by the left and you are too blind to see it or simply choose to ignore it. It has gone from a few ligitimate programs to way too many abused programs and the money to support the afformentioned is running short. What's more ironic than that is how you dems think that democrats "are for the working man". You blame the problems in government on business owners and bankers while thinking your democratic politician is the next savior, well because he's a democrat and/or your union tells you to vote that way. As if any one democrat isn't a wealthy person his/her self. Obama will print more money and inflation will skyrocket, the national defecit will continue to grow out of control, and work will become even harder to find then it is now. That is my prediction and when it comes true, you and all the others who voted for this marxist will be to blame. On top of that, the good Christian morals that once governed our descisions is quickly being replaced by other influences. It is destroying our country. Once again congratulations and thanks alot for being ignorant. If this offends you I don't give a crap!Robbie F. wrote:Agreed woods. I voted for Obama too. I too have a job. I have recieved unemployment before but only for a couple months and then I was able to find work. The mindset that everyone who votes for a democrat gets handouts is silly. I know several people in my area who are unemployed by choice and take advantage of welfare, disability, and other gov. programs. Oddly enough they vote republican because thay are scrared to have their guns taken away! LOL!
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Pine Mt Beagles
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Chip
Your post just about explain's ,why Republican's lost more seat's across the country than since the 60's ,,,I think it is amazing that Republican's say the only reason to vote Democrat is to get hand out's,when more Federal money go to Republican controlled states,the so called Taker states.
And I guess the older generation who has worked 50 or 60 year's and is now on social security,just vote for a hand out,like America's armed forces many of American soldier's get food stamp's because of their low income.How about the Elite some of them vote Democrat.I guess they want free stuff to .
Republican's have a long way to go to get back in the real world.
Your post just about explain's ,why Republican's lost more seat's across the country than since the 60's ,,,I think it is amazing that Republican's say the only reason to vote Democrat is to get hand out's,when more Federal money go to Republican controlled states,the so called Taker states.
And I guess the older generation who has worked 50 or 60 year's and is now on social security,just vote for a hand out,like America's armed forces many of American soldier's get food stamp's because of their low income.How about the Elite some of them vote Democrat.I guess they want free stuff to .
Republican's have a long way to go to get back in the real world.
If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered
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Pine Lakes
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I said nothing even remotely close to what you're accusing me of. Don't try to put words in my mouth, you're not qualified. Who has worked 50 or 60 years? 50 years would put them at 68. 60 years would put them at 78. They paid into social securtiy their entire working life and that is headed for bankruptcy due to robbery. American soldier's get food stamps? I happen to know quite a few, and none of them receive food stamps. They don't get paid what they are worth, but then again they are worth more than we could ever pay them, and true americans don't serve for the money. They choose to "serve" their country(unless drafted) and obtain skills to use in the job force or grants for further education. Some do make it a career, so I think it's safe to say they don't receive food stamps. What happens to them after their respective service time may be another matter. Once again, those that I know don't receive food stamps and are hard working individuals. What elite? If you're refering to movie stars and athletes that's just dumb. Your opinion is based off of predjudicial media coverage and nothing more. Those that are liberal and have money get the majority of the screne time because that's what NBC, MSNBC, CNN and other liberal networks want you to here. I don't care about party affiliation per say. I hate liberals because they have no respect for the Constitution, hard work, good ethics, God, and personal responsibility. I do know the democratic party is who they affiliate themselves with and heavily influence.Pine Mt Beagles wrote:Chip
Your post just about explain's ,why Republican's lost more seat's across the country than since the 60's ,,,I think it is amazing that Republican's say the only reason to vote Democrat is to get hand out's,when more Federal money go to Republican controlled states,the so called Taker states.
And I guess the older generation who has worked 50 or 60 year's and is now on social security,just vote for a hand out,like America's armed forces many of American soldier's get food stamp's because of their low income.How about the Elite some of them vote Democrat.I guess they want free stuff to .
Republican's have a long way to go to get back in the real world.
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Rabbithoundjb
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For once PMB you got something right. Tuesday saddened me to know that the majority of this country have become dependent instead of independent. That the threshold has been crossed. No I was not laughing, I was wondering how so many people have lost the substance, values, principles, honor, respect, morals and so on that generations before us fought for. The sad thing is that people today think they have progressed, HHHHMMM!