What's more difficult???

[johns03272008]

Matt the dog was brought up cause that is the only time i have judged over a dog of neils where he was there so he had to he talking about that dog and since he wanted to try to call me out on my judging i decided to stand for how i judged!!! I didnt see him raising his hand or anyone else for that matter to help the club out amd judge littles so someone else could help me out on the 15's i had to have somekne that has never even seen a beagle run a rabbit run along with me!!! Its amazing!! No reason to talk bad about a judge either but that dont matter does it!!!

[gwyoung]

I could have been another Payton Manning, If I would of had the training!

[fasttrackpa]

Neil, fasttrackpa, and all that believe champions are born PLEASE

Explain this to me then!! 2 dogs say out of the same litter that where born champions ok , lets say both dogs have 3 wins but not all the points and dogs have different owners, both owners train or run their hounds different ok, hounds have same running style same everything, 1 dog gets blowed up, you saying that the dog that blows up is no longer born a champion, but was BORN with everything, all the tools??? I would say that the owner whos dog did not blow up knows how to MAKE a field champion and the one whos dog blew up was just using the tools the dog had but didnt know how to use those tools correctly he must have believed dogs are born champions and not made!!! Due to the dog blowing up it wasnt the same ever again and couldnt finish and the dog that was ran correctly and understood the needs of the dog and the certain training by the owner finished for FC, Therefore the dog that did not blow up and was ran correctly and trained correctly finished AND THEREFORE WAS MADE NOT BORN!!!

All those other post aside and back to the subject. A hound that has blown up was never a true champion to begin with...A true champion gets better with intense competition. I agree what Harry said but I look for a hound that shows early and often without tweaking, I never solo a hound after they can find and circle one to a kill on their own. Once they do that, I pack with the best and worst I can find. Not many make it but the ones that do were born that way and despite my efforts to blow them up, they get better.

[m and m beagles]

Wow some people never get it.

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

Talk about Peer Pressure drop 7-9 Big males on the ground that have never run together, I wonder at times why anyone wants to judge in the Midwest. Tuff Game to play.Tuffer to Win if your honest.

[ohlinger]

LOL Harner sometimes you just set yourself up buddy....

Yep Shawn I'm an idiot. lol

LOL no buddy I'm not saying that I'm just saying you should get that stirring spoon bronze plated!! LOL and you do it on purpose!!


Also Fast Track PA...you say the dogs that were born FC and blown up to not make were not actual born champions, what about the dogs that were born to blow up but never got blown up and made it to champion...lol. Guys you have to keep things practical the ONLY criteria that makes a good dog in my opinon is....A DOG THAT PLEASES THE PERSON FEEDING IT....and that is where the vaule of a dog is found...

[Competent]

Casey u said in a earlier post dat some ppl get it some don't well if u believe dat Fc's come.from.da womb den u won't ever get it. Another post u stated dat if a hound needs more den two weeks.of running den u cull dem ur cracked man. Never make it where iam trialing wid.dogs dat only have two weeks.of.running on dem day wld.get limbed!! Casey come up ta a.few northern large packs wid ur hounds dat only been run for two weeks.and see if u can compete in a six hr pounding race not.gonna.happen dem hounds will be at da back of da pack or may even quit!! JMO

Neil u made a comment bout cream rising ta da top sorry ta burst ur bubble pretty sure only ting I ever seen cream rise in is coffee!! So gud luck ta ya!!

Harry Snow Jr.

[m and m beagles]

The more I read the funnier it gets. "put the crack pipe down" lol.

Moe AKA the white truck was better than some hounds I've seen a lot of guys packing. Was he a fault free dog? NO. Did he do things that helped the pack? Yes.

[chapkosbeagles]

So what I am hearing that it is more handler than genectics
Iwant to see some of the greats like

Branko,terry mcbride,dan kane,jim meachum,gene buyers, joe k greenbay
Take these guy for exsample they know what it takes to finish a hound
Do u think they could take a ugbf dog and make it a lph champion

No way the genes are not there jmo and comman sence witch some on here dont have

[m and m beagles]

"Throwing rocks at window lickers" LOL

[Competent]

Hey jr after reading your post, I kinda wanna do a drive by bitzhs.[/quote from maple valley]

What are u getting at??

Harry Snow Jr.

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

I mean i kinda have a hard time reading your post. I think maybe you would remember me I was with Mark and Jeff Brown in New york you Judged big males. I had a great time that was maybe 6 years ago, If you remember we got a standing ovation Ky boys pretty much swept the big classes. I dont mean anything really i just have a hard time reading your post.Tell your father Jimmie Abshire said hello.

[pineridgebeagles]

i believe weather you are competing for field trial champ or a great hunting hound it has to be born in them. I have said this many times I dont train my hounds ,all i do is give them exposure.Get them in the bushes and what they are bred for will come out. I cant make a hound run any differant(speed or style)than their natural ability,and I cant make them into a jump dog.If a hound is born to swing on the checks ,he will swing.The only thing I can train a hound to do it handle and not run off game.I do believe a non champ caliber hound can and do make field champ with exposure to alot of trials,the right judges and alot of luck. Al

[Casey Harner]

i believe weather you are competing for field trial champ or a great hunting hound it has to be born in them. I have said this many times I dont train my hounds ,all i do is give them exposure.Get them in the bushes and what they are bred for will come out. I cant make a hound run any differant(speed or style)than their natural ability,and I cant make them into a jump dog.If a hound is born to swing on the checks ,he will swing.The only thing I can train a hound to do it handle and not run off game.I do believe a non champ caliber hound can and do make field champ with exposure to alot of trials,the right judges and alot of luck. Al

[chapkosbeagles]

jimmy
That how them there canadians talk ya

But sure are a bunch of nice guys
If u think there hard to understand u should here the lingo of flint michigan