Greenbay PawKing

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Topfuel John
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Re: Greenbay PawKing

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I love the way paw king is bred on the bottom(Green Bay Blue Bay).A little mix of striker,aliba,and alot of Ninja.In 2007 when my buddy jack and I got back into beagles we bought a pup right off of Awful Bawlin Viagra.We raised her,started her and really liked the way she ran a rabbit,just had a certain style!Then right before she was 2 years old we bred her to Reggie because of what he did in trials and of his pedigree.I thought it would be different,but i always heard ninja crossed good with striker/shaker.The viagra female had more ninja on her bottom side with Lumber jack.This cross produced our FC Topfuel Chester.The very first breeding we did with chester was a direct Bluebarry female(Kueka blues littermate).So far those pups are 10 months old and doing great.I purchased a female off of Mark Turdell that is bred simliar to Blue Bay only with Timberjack instead of aliba on bottom,to breed to chester next year.All in all i love what the ninja stuff as brought to the table.I plan on using Pinnacle Hill Sport,Blue Max,and Kueka blue in my breeding program with chester.Maple Lane Rockette is another female that has a pedigree that catches my eye,(Viagra x Aliba x Bluemoon)

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Re: Greenbay PawKing

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ANY VIDEOS?

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Re: Greenbay PawKing

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Google Hare Hunt video 2011. He is in that video. Harehound recorded it. He is at the 40 second mark getting a check and come across the line in second, I believe at the 120 mark.
I have talked with Brandon, his new owner, several times. King is a very nice hound, going by comparisons of a hound that Brandon and I have seen together. I will be breeding to him in the spring of 2013.

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Re: Greenbay PawKing

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fjg2 wrote:during the futurity in early july / class of champions 13" combined Paw got picked up first dog out of class of 12 / he was going over the end so badly the pack could not keep the hare going with such a disruption

now before you all fire up the $hit cannons / I am not saying the dog maybe used to have talent and perhaps now has been subjected too many trials / but IMHO he should not have been put in when he is now running like that

Piche's dog that won looked very good as did the second place bitch which was a fulcount dog

fjg2 ill do something you havnt done on this board yet my name is brandon labombard and i live i new york .. .. paw king is in my back yard feel to call me any time my number is (518) 645 2510 maybe u could bring up some of ur best to run againts him and i mean bring up ur best then if you dont like wat you see maybe just maybe u can get back on this board and run your lips.. now as for the trial of champions goes i take you were the beacause u know so much what dis they do for the first hour and a half they worked the dogs because the couldnt get.the.run going well the judges said they picked uo king because he was reaching.in the checks now nothing agaist the judges.they did what they had to do but comming.from my oerspective.the way i judge is if there.is no running n i got a dig that is reaching.out.of the.check area becauae it is hit n.picking u better bealve that dog.is ganna stay in because thats wat pawking was doing when.the.hole pack couldnt leave tge check earea and wouldnt advance ten feet to pick it up and that was wat pawking was doing now after they picked up paw king tgere wasbt.a single bark for how long i would say a hour so wat does.that.tell ya... and who ever.you are trying to say tou would leave that dog at home because.he was put in to many trials and maybe.had.talent beforr lol... since we owned the dog we have put.him in 9 trails in canada with 7 wins and a 2nd n a 3rd so where that comes from i dont know ive said enough give me.a.call if ya want to talk about this a little more
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Re: Greenbay PawKing

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I've seen the dog run. Hard hitter, all front end, lots of hunt, bottom and desire. Seems to have a good nose. He is rough, that's for sure, (loose in the check and over the end, not side hooking) but when I saw him his roughness wasn't detrimental to the pack. He won the trial I judged him in.

Personally if I was going to be running cottontail, I wouldn't be looking at this dog for stud or buy a pup from. I'm not trying to start an argument...but if he throws how he runs it isn't going to help you. However, if I wanted to add hunt, drive, bottom, and most of all desire he would be a top dog on my list.

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I have waited to write anything but I have to chime in. I have met Brandon and his dad Jim and they are great guys, truly enjoyed chating with them. I also judged PK in Canada, he got 3rd. He is a very hard driving, front end little dog, tons of desire. If he stays in you better place him. He could be a little "rough" (I hate that word), he is aggressive, but I like a dog to push the envelope. He is certainly one of the top hounds in the US AND Canada right now if not THE top hound. I took Blue up to Stub's the day Nikita was bred, 63 days later Green Bay Blue Bay was born. I was there the day she left for Michigan, or Wisconsin, where ever Joe was at the time. I Judged Shooter in Canada, the only second he got in Canada. And he too was an impressive hound, albeit different than PK. I have never seen Butkus run. But I think I have a little insite as too PawKings back ground. Next to Stub, nobody has seen Nikita more than me or hunted with her. And Blue has been with me since before he was 2 yrs old, he is now over 10. He looks to be the total package, if you like that style of dog. What else has a dog gotta do? I think Brandon or Jim will shoot straight if you get a chance to talk to them, but video's?? You don't "back in" to a record like that!! Congrats Jim and Brandon, and keep an eye out for the little male that one the futurity, out of Blue Bay as well!!

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Re: Greenbay PawKing

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PK is PK, his record speaks for itself. You dont get the amount of wins he has by luck. Ive seen him go on a hard hitting day, and each pass we got to see the pack, the boy was up front. The one time i saw him when it was a bad running day.....still up front, working the check and keeping it going. The one thing anyone who has seen PK run will tell ya, he EXPLODES out of the check and can drive it out better than any dog out there right now.

A great dog is not out there everyday, this is one of em. call brandon and i guarantee he will have you over for some runnin. Good luck with that.
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The First time i Judged Pawking , It was at Ottawa Beagle club , United counties trial with Harry Snow Jr. Pawking was consistanly running 2nd thru 4th , and taking the lead when the other bobbled it . He would nail them if they went over the line 2 feet . He made a few hounds that tried to run the front extremely rough. they felt the pressure from paw king. I believe he had 60-70 more points then the 2nd place hound , in canada we use the 5-4-3-2-1 scoring of a line and 6-10 for a checks so being that far ahead is something you dont see alot. I still remember #11 nonstop always where the rabbit was . If i was going Cottontail or hare or whatever other game this hound can run hunting , i would look to him . He is one of the best little males out there period. How many points did you demerit from PK at the Nats and he still won Rob?
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Darryl wrote:The First time i Judged Pawking , It was at Ottawa Beagle club , United counties trial with Harry Snow Jr. Pawking was consistanly running 2nd thru 4th , and taking the lead when the other bobbled it . He would nail them if they went over the line 2 feet . He made a few hounds that tried to run the front extremely rough. they felt the pressure from paw king. I believe he had 60-70 more points then the 2nd place hound , in canada we use the 5-4-3-2-1 scoring of a line and 6-10 for a checks so being that far ahead is something you dont see alot. I still remember #11 nonstop always where the rabbit was . If i was going Cottontail or hare or whatever other game this hound can run hunting , i would look to him . He is one of the best little males out there period.
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Re: Greenbay PawKing

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Darryl,
you're absolutely right...when the rabbit is up, you're going to see him all the time. We took him back 40 points and he was still won the trial. Like many of you guys said, you keep him in all day it's tough not to give him the win.

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Re: Greenbay PawKing

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anyone know how he did in the midwest, or any small pack trials. sounds like speed is the thing with this dog.thats good for hare but what about cottontail.you got to have gears.

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Re: Greenbay PawKing

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Ron, to have gears, you must have brains. There is no shortage of brains in this bloodline. All the talk now in the midwest is about Reggie. If you look at Pawking's ped you will see alot of the same. Blue Bay's dam, Nikita, is out of a bitch named Maravic's Mr Stub's Dianna. Di was a littermate to Maravic's Blue Girl...Stub also had another sister, her name was Maravic's Mr Stubs Deanna. Dee produced a hound named 2XNLPC Mr Stub's Little Bit Fancy, the single best beagle I have ever seen...anywhere. There are some super producing genes behind these hounds. Fancy sired by Maravics Mr Stubs Blue Thunder, who was by Aladdin and FC Maravic's Blue Jean. Nikita sired by Aladdin. If you look there are glaring similarities with a number of other great ones out there, I believe Steve has mentioned few of them. Maravic's Blue Bayeau, dam to Blue Max and 3 or 4 other FC's or IFC's, comes to mind. I usually don't post much on here but this particular post is a bit closer to me due to the connection I have had to the bloodline behind Pawkings dam. I am certainly looking at one of her sons in the future. Bottom line is this line has produced for generations, no matter where they are placed on the ground. It was a nice to see Blue Bay on the cover of the BB and Mr. Orr said it right about a great producing female. I wish the best of luck to Brandon, Jim and the young man who owns the futurity winner, can't remember his name or the dogs name! :oops: Also to Kevin and Remi Orr for the great luck and great things they have done with a super little dog! Mark Trudell

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Re: Greenbay PawKing

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PK is loaded with the most awesome hounds of any line i know of the last 25 years top and bottom. hounds that won awards won national championships, trial of champions, and were high hounds or association high hounds. save some for my bitch when i get my pups maybe they might beat the critics. remember some dogs throw dogs more checky than they are, or even more agressive some even better Jack of All Trades an example. Blue Maxs and Destiny's mom was a tiny consevative line control hound but theyare famous.Destiny is as good and level headed at running cottontail as hound you see. She could walk out an old line and long checks but when the scent hung high she was an azz kicker, like maravics bred hounds, wiley and PK same type hounds. every litter be prepared for suprises some times great ones some maybe not but the genes are here for sucess with the numerous accomplishments of the maravics line, striker,wiley, shooter/ranger dan in the mix. Birchhaven Brusier lives on and eastcoast trimmer also all great ones of historical porportion all here too. wont know unless you try. i plan too! some dogs do have bad days and roughen up aftet a lot of large pack. he is s a smart very very talented dog and will win again more trais.My buddy had a dog in the pack at the TOC he says though that PK did get picked up he was amazed with him and see how he could domnate and win. what might be beauty to one might be ugly to another unless its their dogs doing the a__ kicking. the microsocope i guess gets turned up when you keep eatting dust. i wont lie i had to shake my self before to for being envious and get in touch with reality. we are all human we are not perfect and no dog is perfect 100% the time unless it's one for a cure of insomnia. take your picks set on the edge of your seat or yawn and miss out.

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Re: Greenbay PawKing

Post by upstatenybeagler »

Mark,

That hound was Green Bay Marko owned by Douglas Alexander. Hes running partner with Gary Trombley. I believe he got the dog from Brandon as well. Hes a nice little hound.

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Re: Greenbay PawKing

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Ron,
Not sure if the dog ever ran in SPO?

I judged his grandmother, FC Mr. Stub's Nikita, she was awesome. I believe she finished under Jim Fowles and I at Mid Valley in September of 04.

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