Do Good Dogs Go To Heaven

[Mo. Beagler 5000]

GW-- I agree with what you said... My point was though even that in the OT is was a temporary/symbolic gesture that God still looked at the animal as unclean and worthy of destruction...

As for the new earth and heaven and where we will live.... When I was in bible college no credible scholar would touch the book of Revelation because of the nature of the book so my understanding is SERIOUSLY lacking scholarship on the subject so I cannot comment on it.. I just know we will be in heaven and on the new earth but how it plays out.... thats for people smarter for me.

[Casey Harner]

I believe that dogs go to heaven, don't giving a flying turd that some of you don't. I know my old hound AL is there right now. You don't think there is, I do. End of story.....NEXT!!!

[gwyoung]

Mo Beagler, I could not imagine any who claim to be a Bible Scholar whether credible or not that would not " touch the book of Revelation". I suppose they thought God made a mistake by inserting it and it was not necessary as they would not teach it. I personally think they need to find a new line of work as they will do great harm in causing some to believe the book of Revelation is not relevant. I wonder exactly what keeps them from deciding other books in the Bible are not relevant???? Anyway, The Theme of Relevation is Jesus Christ, I think this is Relevant. I wish you would take the time to read the book, it is one of the greatest books ever written. It is a prophecy, keep this in mind. It tells us exactly what is going to happen, ( Satan knows this book well and I am sure he hates the entire Bible, But I am equally sure that he despises this book above all others, Seems like some Bible Scholars don't care for it either) Anyhow, I believe you will enjoy it. Some other things to keep in mind as you study it that you may find helpful is that the Church ( Saved sinners of all times) Are not mentioned in the greater part of this book, Chapters 5-18.This is the first division of the three, which are things that were, things that are, and things to come. This is my favorite book in the Bible, here is where the wicked get what is coming to them! One more thing you will not understand all of Revelation and at this time no Man will, The meaning of some passages are obscure to us by design, but will become clear to who they are intended for when the time comes.

[gwyoung]

Casey Harner, When I was five years old I had a pet Cockroach, I loved him as much as you loved Al. I took him to school with me almost everday. I loved to see him scurring about his little pen, ( I named him Scooter) findind the morsels of food I hid ( he always found them all) So if you are correct when you get to Heaven please don't step on any cockroaches, It may be Scooter! Cockroaches are bound to be there as I loved him as much as you loved al.

[bigdog]

JMO! if you believe, all things are possible. and u can take it to the bank that i believe. all i am doing to say on this.

[Dave Swiger]

I always found it amazing that the root word of Revelation is Reveal. Dictionary: noun to reveal or disclose.

Dave

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

Mo Beagler And Gw,
We are seeing the bible play out before our eyes litterally. Answer me this Whats left to be fullfilled before he returns?
Its actually a great time for christians its all right there word for word and line for line. Not that i am Billy Graham but i still have strong beliefs. Revalations is a strong book but its kinda like this, every book has a ending. Thats ours.

[TC]

I sure have had a few dogs that should be in heaven and maybe if I make it there one day - I'll log in a report back on this thread.

[Salzer mtn]

Casey Harner, When I was five years old I had a pet Cockroach, I loved him as much as you loved Al. I took him to school with me almost everday. I loved to see him scurring about his little pen, ( I named him Scooter) findind the morsels of food I hid ( he always found them all) So if you are correct when you get to Heaven please don't step on any cockroaches, It may be Scooter! Cockroaches are bound to be there as I loved him as much as you loved al.

If there is a heaven for good dogs then it would only be right that there be a hell for bad dogs. But who determines what a bad dog is ? Pitt Bulls have been given a bad wrap by a lot of people but if people fight them the pitt is only doing what i guess he was bred to do just like the beagle is bred to run rabbits. If i have one that is my guard dog and he bites a thief in the butt, the thief would probably curse that dog to hell but to me he was a good dog. gwyoung made a good point, people have pet's, everything from a snake to a rat so if your favorite dogs goes to heaven their snakes and rat's go too. Heaven would be flooded with varmint's.

[bucks better beagles]

No less an authority than our Pope declared in 2002 that there really was no heaven or hell at all. Merely a condition we find for ourselves while alive on earth.

God didn''t put the book of revelation in the bible. It was chosen by a group of Kingsmen (King James) in the early 1600's. There were approximately 50 of them from 3 English Cities. Some of them were of questionable moral quality and it took years to decide what was to be in and what was to be out. Many gospels were left out and in the end, only the King made the final decision.

[Mo. Beagler 5000]

Gw--- Im not saying we didnt read or look at it but in other books of the bible credible super smart people have written exhaustive commentaries on and are easier to understand linguistically and symbolllically. In college, professors study one area or subject to become teachers in.... Almost no one chooses revelation to be there specialty because so many people will never agree about anything and there is sooooo many crazy people who look at the book and say weird things about.. It becomes denominational real quick.

BUCK-- You are mistaken--- King james translated it into english only... The actual books of the bible in the new testament were put there by no later than AD 160 and then was solidified by the council of nicea in 325

[bucks better beagles]

It was a translation Mo but with a twist. The scholars drew from many versions of varied bibles. They chose what and how to translate. The king needed a book that would unify his varied and angry constituencies. He wanted people to be able to interpret it in many ways and he got it. What is fascinating is that the people he chose to do the work were, in general, ordinary people. They were an eclectic group of drunk, self-serving, ambitious, ruthless, obsequious, pedantic and flawed individuals. Since there were no printing presses, each book had to be copied by hand by, generally, slaves or catholic monks. Some of these copies survive and have been shown to contain differences that change the whole meaning of a verse. There is information about these guys who acted as "God" Secretaries" in various libraries and books.

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

Hey Buck,
God is a All knowing God. He made it a point too hang with the sinners, maybe it was to make em Saints? My Pastor told me once, Most of us will miss heaven by about 16"-------------------------------------Thats the measurment from your head to your heart. People that aint sick sure dont need a Dr.

[Mo. Beagler 5000]

Buck-- I agree with that. They were staunch calvinists and had some beliefs we dont typically believe to be true today but the book of revelation was still there just translated improperly

[gwyoung]

Buck,, The entire Bible is the infallible word of God, your great common sense should tell you so. MoBeagler your Bible teachers should have told you so!
Doesn't it only make sense that an Almighty God who could form the universe, create mankind and all that is living , do something as simple as preserving his word? even during translations, without losing any of it. Does it not stand to reason that Almighty God who wanted us to have his word could preserve his word uncorruptible? What a shame God went to all of the trouble to give us his word and he did not have the power to keep it . So if some of it is Corruptible and some of it is not, we would have no way of knowing what God's word really was would we. This would make all of it suspect and God would have failed. Impossible.
Mo Beagler, I have never known of a Bible College that did not put very strong emphasis on the Book of Revelation, but apparently they exist. What also exists is Bible Colleges which teach the entire word of God. You are correct about the book on the matter of Denominations. Were you able to learn what the most " denominational" teaching is in the Book of revelation ?