Top Sire

[allniter]

You are so right again

[likeemfast]

.....................................................FINAL CHAPTER: IS THE SUSPENSE KILLING YA.................................

....................Foxxy, if i went out and tracked down all other 1499 dogs and documented how they had progressed and put a value to them on some type of scale of quality and what they were worth i still would have guys telling me how great of a SIRE a dog that has produced 1500 hounds and only 6 FC's is. Some guys you just cant educate. Simply said "YA CANT TEACH STUPID"!!! Haire-bear, i couldnt agree more, but when you let your Champion breed to every guy with a stud fee in his pocket you have to realize your gonna produce garbage. Those guys are not likely going to cull the bad ones, their going to post them on one of the beagle sites out there with the advertisement ''Reggie Male or Reggie Female'' for sale. Although they did not come out of the Sires kennel they come with the Sires name. That right there is half of Reggies problem. Another part of his problem is the Quality females he has been bred to and produced nothing when IMO other Top Sires have produced out of those same breedings to those females. (a few examples given previously and has been my point all along.) Lastly you have the guys who bred to Reggie and dont trial, where im sure he has some good hounds he wont get recognized for. You put that recipe all together and it breeds disaster, IMO.
There has been a recent stud from what ive heard taken off the breeding block, for the owner to simply enjoy his hound, i also hope its to protect the champion status this dog has already achieved and not have this conversation type in another couple years about a IMO a good fine hound. Iwould like to think hes looking out for his champion and selective breeding his champion. Breed these fine hounds to producing fine hounds and try and make this beagling world a a better producing bunch instead of all these half- azzed
hounds we are seeing. I know you guys spend a lot of money driving around and competing your hounds, its nice to make some of that money back too, but when is enuf enuf? Obviously i have not been the 1st one to bring up this topic of Reggies producing inabilities!!

In closing i really dont care wether people like 'LIKEEMFAST' and or his posts or not, as some of your PM's have shown. I have lots of laughs reading your replies and PM's. As ive stated before "some of you guys are the sensitive type aint ya". Ive also enjoyed chatting with some of you in your PM's too. Ive sold 1 hound in my career in beagling, given some away and culled a bunch, im in beagling for the trials i run with my dogs, my trials and wether they make champion in my book and my book only. Im always looking to improve what i have even when sometimes i know i have had about the best i can ask for, IM PRETTY DARN PARTICULAR for a rabbit hunter. Ive had the pleasure to meet and also just chat with guys from in this beagling world from Virginia W Virginia S Carolina to Louisiana to Texas to Ohio to Indiana to New York and Canada. It has been a pleasure meeting and just talking with some of you. I thank you.

So ive said all that and explained myself to say this, as one of my beagling friends has stated to me, YOU CAN BREED A BIG CROOKED LEGGED BASSET HOUND 250 to 300 TIMES AND COME UP WITH 6 FIELD CHAMPIONS. LOL
IM DONE NOW, DONT YA ALL MAKE ME COME OUT WITH A VOLUME 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[foxxy]

6 fc
how many arha or ukc champ?
i herd he was a hof reproducer
as of right now i have 0 reggie blood in kennel and zero turbo and only one dog with a branko dog in her 3rd gen. i am just asking maybe i will stick to somthing diffrent than the comon bloods like reggie striker ranger dan. i like diffrent blood

[Casey Harner]

I wonder what stud dog is next on your hit list??

Also did you just talk yourself like your in the third person.....???

[likeemfast]

3RD person???? i dunno maybe. Like that Seinfeld episode, "Jimmy likes basketball" , anyhew wether i did or not, i know im opinionated enuf for 3 people and big enuf to be 2 so its quite possible. Hope you enjoyed VOLUME 1.

[Casey Harner]

Didn't know you were keeping count.

[Norshore]

Dont egg him on Casey, this guy really like to watch himself talk.

[Casey Harner]

Dont egg him on Casey, this guy really like to watch himself talk.

He sure does.

[likeemfast]

Ya know i have to get in the last word after all this, .... right?

[new kid on the block]

Not trying to down this dog name reggie. I have a male out of reggie,but I dont know anything about him. I just like to hunt. My question is why are there so many reggie dogs for sale? People never sale good dogs. Its always I have to many dogs,trying to make room for pups. How do you determine which dog needs to go? I can understand selling a beagle because you have no time to hunt,or you have a litter of pups and cant keep them all. Like I said im green when it comes to beagle talk,but not green at all when it comes to breeding. One thing you dont do when you have a stud that carries weight like reggie,you dont breed to everything. Money or not! If i cant see your female run to see if shes worth breeding. We cant make it happen. From what I read reggie is a hell of a dog. I just think selective breeding should have been used. Like they always say my opinion is like a butt hole,everybodys got one.

[likeemfast]

Well im not sure if i have a opinion on this subject, ...........hmmmmm, .......... let me think........hmmmmmm, .................well maybe i do. As a breeder you know you can get a peach out of 2 lemons, but when you get lemons outa 2 peaches, run, its "A Reggie"!! Guys will sell these overpopulated poor hounds just to try to make a buck off Reggies name, and lots think their gonna buy the next Reggie for $400 too. Ya hear a lot of, This 15" male dog will champion but i only run 13'' females, and then you hear, yep he was a great one when i had him, yes sir, when i had him woo wee he was super, yeppir when i had him he was the real deal. Next thing ya know ya got 7 guys who had a dog that will supposedly Champion thats only 2 years old, that everyone of them has sold, and what should be heard is.... BOOM!!!! (thats not just outta Reggie tho, but most of em are) As a breeder you know the deal, quality to quality unfortunately In this case tho, they should of just changed Reggies name to Greenie. On the bright side, if it is about the green its been a success.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

I don't visit this page much anymore ,since I started breeding treeing feist and squirrel hunting ,but,having just over 30 yrs of breeding beagles,I find this one interesting I put much more faith in the BREEDING of these little hound's than anything else and it's a proven theory that BLOOD will show up,at least 5 gen. deep,that said in over 30 yrs of breeding I have breed to ,,two champion's ,neither one produced ,from the cross I made,,one was the best day in and day out rabbit hound I have ever seen,now here is the kicker I had a female that could not run a rabbit in a # 3 wash tub,she just had to much go ,but you could breed her to a poodle and get a rabbit dog.---Blood Lines..

I think that field trial's are the best way in the world to get you out, of a good rabbit hound for several reason's,you cannot see what a hound has in a couple hrs,a lot of people also get's caught up in ,the tail gate hero talk especially youngster's,and run out and breed to one of these flavor of the month super hound's,just to have a bunch of cull's to sell with that super hound sire Title as advertisement.

I went to and ran in field trial's for some time never did much good at it ,but I saw enough to know that ,,,,is not how to judge the worth of a hound if ,you truly love hunting,this is going to hurt some of you ,but the fact is if you are at a field trial ,with 50 hound's enered you are looking at 40 or so cull's,just think about that,I know you are saying this guy is a nut,but the number's don't lie,because out of that 50 ,the top 10 will show up in the winner's pack at most if not all ,of the trials entered that year and maybe the next ,where did the other 40 go,just go back and look at trial result's .Now some say not all good rabbit dog's make good trial dog's,,,I am not one of them ,if you have a rabbit hound that is ruly a good one ,
hunt's like it's butt is on fire and it's tail is trying to put it out,can jump a rabbit out of thin air,run with very few if any 15 second or so check's,can do it all day every day,rain ,snow or dry dusty condition's,hold's it's mouth and uses it right,got the speed to go but the brains to know when to back off,has no respect for it's body,the nose to run a rabbit other hound's can't smell,,,,and you go to a trial and don't win,,,,the other hound's didn't beat you.however there is one little catch,,every one don't see the same thing in a hound.

Same thing for a stud dog,if there is 50 stud dog's listed at least 40 will not produce dog's even as good as they are,one reason is the female side ,but many more thing's are reason's as well.how do you judge the success and worth of a stud dog,by,the pup's they produce but like field trial's that is not alway's the case ,To many times the judges ,judge what is on the wrong end of the lead rope,and two many times people judge a stud dog by ,first how much the stud fee is ,what kind of titles the dog has,and then who the owner is.

In over 30 yrs of breeding and hunting these little hound's I have saw about 5 or 6 stud dog's and about as many females that produced,I know this is much to long for most to read but,here is the short defination ,a stud dog or female is not a producer----if----they have 100 pup's on the ground and 80 or 90 are just average or cull's,they are just a product of good advertising,how many of the above hound's mentioned have had more good than bad,not one.

Go ahead and jump all over me I can handel it.but,just go back read some trial result's ,make some notes,find out as much as you can about the number of pup's on the ground compared to the number you hear a lot about and judge for your self after ---you ---are doing the feeding and cleaning ,doctoring and walking,don't fall for advertising.

But all that said you are the only one ,the little hound should have to please.
Good Luck to all.

[hookset]

Dang Pine Mt., your a lot smarter on this page than the other.

[likeemfast]

Pine mtn, i could of read your 1st paragraph and stopped cause you have said what IMO ive been saying all along. That hound who cant run a rabbit in a #3 wash tub isnt a rabbit hound but what she is, is a reproducer of rabbit hounds. To be able to know you basically have a not great hound but being able to know she should be a great producer is a knack most dont have, some guys do tho. (for inquiring minds, ....im not one of them) Also, to have a IFC is a great accomplishment, to have a IFC that is a producer also is another. Many great dogs are just that, great dogs and nothing else, but to have both in a hound is a gift.
Look at Green Bay kennels, keep producing great hounds, any as dominant as Wiley, probably not as dominant but keeps pumping out top top quality. To be able to sell ur top hounds and be able to still produce top hounds shows GREEN BAY MUST HAVE A RECIPE FOR SUCCESS!!!!! Will the guys who purchase his top hounds off him be able to keep producing like Green Bay does himself?????? Time will tell.
Lastly does anyone know if Rockridge has produced any champs in his own kennel since he is kenneling The Top Sire? I mean, if you have such a Top Sire in your kennel, shouldnt you have at least a couple other champions running around in your kennel? You have access to The Top Sire 24/7, i would think you should. Just curious.

[likeemfast]

Hookset, be careful, you dont want to get on the bad side of Reggie's owner too, do ya? Pine Mtn has basically said exactly what i have said.