Most proven stud dog on the ground as of today

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Re: Most proven stud dog on the ground as of today

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271rockridge wrote:Every time Reggie is mentioned the numbers game comes up yes he has bred 150 or so bitches and I am sure some of them couldnt even circle a rabbit and some of them were top notch bitches but like I said in my original post bring a QUALITY bitch to him and he wont disappoint.I am pretty sure that 3 of the Big 5 hunts open classes were won by Reggie pups
My vote goes to Reggie. There are people with Reggie dogs that just gun hunt and have never trialed but I bet some of the Reggie dogs that are just gun hunted would do good in trials if given the chance because I have seen some of them eat some FC and LP champs alive so he is a reproducer for the gun hunter also not just the trialers so I take into consideration how pleased the gun hunters are with Reggie dogs also.

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mfusco83 wrote:I am just wondering if any body knows . Who is the most proven reproducing stud dog out there.
I want to take breedings in to consideration to .I run little pack and just want opinons .
What stud out there got the most champs and grands on the ground to date . The stud still has to be alive


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Guys , Did Anyone read this guys question???

He didn't ask What stud dogs you like .
He didn't ask about gun hunting.
He didn't ask about the type of female bred.
He didn't ask about Progressive pack or AKC trial records.

Reggie is a fine dog and stud but here's why it would be hard to pick Reggie.

At Random, I picked up a Rabbit Hunter mag. and turned to the LITTLE PACK trial results section (July-2010 edition) . With a quick scan of the results , I came up with 14 different Reggie offspring placing. Now, that sounds good but here is the point.

Dog A------ Has 21 offspring trialing and 17 become Champion or Grand.

Dog B-------Has 107 offspring trialing and 21 become Champion or Grand.

Get the point. This is why the Total number's become so important. :cool:
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T LEE wrote:
mfusco83 wrote:I am just wondering if any body knows . Who is the most proven reproducing stud dog out there.
I want to take breedings in to consideration to .I run little pack and just want opinons .
What stud out there got the most champs and grands on the ground to date . The stud still has to be alive


Thanks
Mike
Guys , Did Anyone read this guys question???

He didn't ask What stud dogs you like .
He didn't ask about gun hunting.
He didn't ask about the type of female bred.
He didn't ask about Progressive pack or AKC trial records.

Reggie is a fine dog and stud but here's why it would be hard to pick Reggie.

At Random, I picked up a Rabbit Hunter mag. and turned to the LITTLE PACK trial results section (Juy-2010 edition) . With a quick scan of the results , I came up with 14 different Reggie offspring placing. Now, that sounds good but here is the point.

Dog A------ Has 21 offspring trialing and 17 become Champion or Grand.

Dog B-------Has 107 offspring trialing and 21 become Champion or Grand.

Get the point. This is why the Total number's become so important. :cool:
I AGREE,NUMBERS DONT LIE.
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To me , as was previously mentioned, the most important thing to consider is Reggie comes from a family of reproducers. He has the genetics behind him to produce some top dogs when crossed with females that also possess good genetics.
The % of champions in this format or that format to me is certainly an interesting statistic but it is so nebulous as so much of it is based on owner's participation and or promotion of their hounds.Much of the content of this board is driven by those that compete their hounds in trials.BUT, the reality of it is that trialers represent a very small % of beaglers in general.
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Well, from what I am reading there is no way to determine who the most proven stud on the ground. Some people trial every weekend, that dog has a better chance to win and champion or grand out. Some people do one trial a month and it will take longer for their dog to champion out. Some people only trial when it is close enough for them to go. Therefore, this conversation can go on and on and on. I would just about guarantee that the best Reggie produced dog has never seen a field trial, and the same goes for Junie, Jasper, Buddy, and Shooter and all the other big studs. I've seen offspring from all of these dogs run with the exception of Shooter. Some I liked and some I didn't. But, of course, this is just my opinion.
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I don't know what male has the best statistics, but I do think Reggie is going to have a good reputation when it's all said & done. #1: he has a very popular & proven bloodline; #2: there have been some great bitches bred to him & therefore there are some great offspring out there that are definitley going to benefit the breed in the future when they are bred.
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I agree with you that trialing is a BIG part of the beagling world as it is what gets the most publicity / attention.What I was saying is that for all the people across this country that keep beagles for rabbit hunting and pleasure running I would say that most of them do not trial or even subscribe to beagle magazines or get on these boards.
Over the years I can't begin to tell you of all the folks i have met in the woods or seen with a dog box in the back of their truck and got to talking with them and found out that they have never trialed or even been to a trial.So yes, trial results are important but I still feel they represent a small percentage of the beagles that are out there.I'd say that over the past 15 years I've raised 10 litters of well bred registered pups and out of them only about 7-8 of them were ever taken to a trial as the others are just gun hunted.
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hard on a check wrote:I understand what everybody on here is saying,some of it i agree with an some of it i disagree with.I am still very curious to know what reggies numbers of fc's are that he has produced? i believe that if a "reproducer" has 900 dogs on the ground(give or take) with a small(?) percentage of them being field champions,then in that particular case that wouldnt seem very impressive to me.Thats just my opinion,and as i said before - im not trying to say anything out of the way,or offend/disrespect anyone.
That don't make no darn sense. If Reggie had 900 offspring how many of them do u think were even
Put in a field trial? Prolly less the half. How do we know what kinda female he was breed to? How do we know that the owner of the pups even gave the pups the time a day to become something special.
There's no way to no what percentage was trailed and what percentage were gun dogs or even house pets!

I do know this, Reggie is one Bad SOB. Some people would say the best beagle to ever touch the ground and for me it
Would be hard to argue that. Reggie's stats speak for themselfs.
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Take a look on the first page of this thread, 6 post down. That will give u a idea of
his breading abilities.
I'm young and only been running dogs myself for about 5 years. Seems like to me Reggie is the best and most well known dog of my Generation and look what this whole thread has come to. The guy ask about the best stud and I ultimately turns into a conversation about REGGIE.

I have no reason to talk Reggie up. I have a variety of blood lines in my kennel, branko,Reggie,Jasper.
All of which are hella nice dogs.



Heres a little info on Reggie himself
http://www.mid-west-gundog.com/reggie.htm
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We have chnaged this guys questions into how good we like or hate Reggie. But one thing is for sure man somebody had to like something if there is 900 pups out of him. WAY TO GO REGGIE! My grand daddy told me a saying onetime that has always stuck with me.

Everybody hates a winner! But everybody wants to be one!

I really like Reggie. JMO He has a bloodline behind him that is known for reperduction of some fine rabbit dogs for man years. But as well to eaches own feed what makes you happy nobody has to run with them or look at them but the man that is feeding them. So breed to what you want. There is not a stud out there that you can breed just a beagle to and gurantee great dogs. But if you take a nice bitch to Reggie or Buddy you will be HAPPY with the outcome. JMO
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I dont know about his excact numbers of fc. But It took alot of good stats to get them titles. They just dont give that sh!t away.
He didn't get the sire of the year titles by shooting blanks
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