What would you do. Take over friends beagle

[gfedor]

Im looking over my buddies beagle while he's on vaction.
Now before I get started, he had one of the best pack of
gundogs I ever ran with. All his dogs died within 2 yrs
old age, except this old girl. Anyway I went to feed het
today, and to my surprise she is laying in her own filth
cant even stand up straight. Pure neglect, so I made the
decision to take her to my kennel hopefully for good. She
is 13. I hope she can spend her last days here

[Bunnyblaster]

I would probably do the same thing and hopefully he'll have a good explanation for it when he gets home although I can't imagine a good reason for it.

One thing is for sure, you will no doubt find out just how good of friends you are after you have that conversation. A lot of times the right thing to do isn't always the easiest thing to do............you're doing the right thing. And I would even go a step further, butt my nose in, and let him know that if I see another dog at his place in that same shape again I'll be calling the law.

[RiverRat]

Sounds like you did the right thing.

[buckshot464]

Sounds like someone that shouldn't own a dog or any animals for that matter.

[Bunnyblaster]

Sounds like someone that shouldn't own a dog or any animals for that matter.

It's terrible no matter what but I've seen some that used to truly care go down the wrong road for whatever reason........although like I said before none of them are good reasons IMO. But sometimes a swift kick in the rear from a friend is all they need to either straighten up or decide animal ownership is just not for them anymore. And then again some never change either. It's a tough situation to be in no matter how you look at it.

[T LEE]

I had something similar happen several years ago. I spoke with a buddy on the phone that was going through a Bad Divorce. He wanted to sale me his 2 best dogs and buy them back When/IF things got better later. We were going to meet the following Saturday afternoon. When I got to his home that Saturday afternoon ...he wasn't even there ( Very Typical of him). I went to his kennels and saw how bad of shape the dogs were in. No water in most buckets and Lime Green water in buckets of a few. The kennels had Not been cleaned in Months. A pad lock was on the kennel of his 2 best dogs . I tried every key I had (which was several) and finally got one to open the lock. I put the money for the dogs under the mat of one of his trucks. 2 Days Later....Let me repeat that ....2 DAYS LATER. I got a phone call from him. Said that his Wife must have broke into his kennel and took his two best dogs. That would mean that it took two days to notice that they were missing. I told him where the money was and I picked up the dogs Saturday afternoon.

Do what you must.

[bodidley]

That is a shame, I have been sick for almost 4 months now, My wife has been taking care of my Dogs 6 of them, My buddys come and let them run and hunt them otherwise I would have to get them to a good home before I let them live in Nasty conditions !

[S.R.Patch]

I think if your a good friend, you clean up the kennel(it's only for one dog) and put the dog back where it come from. You feed and water the dog like you agreed till you friend comes home, and then, have the talk about what can be done for the dogs best welfare.
If he truly is a friend, you don't come on a public board to air dirty laundry without first trying to resolve the issue with your friend. He may just give you the dog, seeing your concern, as it sounds like he headed out of the game anyway with only one old hound left.
Dealing with people in real life is much harder than on a beagle board, but the rewards can be much greater and long lasting. jmho
Best of luck to you and your friend...

[blckcrk-dog]

I think if your a good friend, you clean up the kennel(it's only for one dog) and put the dog back where it come from. You feed and water the dog like you agreed till you friend comes home, and then, have the talk about what can be done for the dogs best welfare.
If he truly is a friend, you don't come on a public board to air dirty laundry without first trying to resolve the issue with your friend. He may just give you the dog, seeing your concern, as it sounds like he headed out of the game anyway with only one old hound left.
Dealing with people in real life is much harder than on a beagle board, but the rewards can be much greater and long lasting. jmho
Best of luck to you and your friend...

amen sir

[Dale L.]

S.R.Patch wrote:
I think if your a good friend, you clean up the kennel(it's only for one dog) and put the dog back where it come from. You feed and water the dog like you agreed till you friend comes home, and then, have the talk about what can be done for the dogs best welfare.
If he truly is a friend, you don't come on a public board to air dirty laundry without first trying to resolve the issue with your friend. He may just give you the dog, seeing your concern, as it sounds like he headed out of the game anyway with only one old hound left.
Dealing with people in real life is much harder than on a beagle board, but the rewards can be much greater and long lasting. jmho
Best of luck to you and your friend...



Couldn't have said it better. Excellent post Patch!

[Bunnyblaster]

Sorry fellas but I respectfully disagree. The guy didn't use any names and probably just wants to be reassured he's headed in the right direction......which he is IMO.

Cleaning the kennel and talking to the guy when he gets home may be a more tactful way of going about it but wrong is wrong and there is no excuse for keeping ANY dog in those conditions if you actually give a rip about them in the first place. Yea I know, the dog probably isn't going to die anytime soon if it's made it this long. BUT, and I'll say it again BUT, if this guy is willing to let a friend or anyone for that matter walk in and see that he lets his dogs live in those kinds of conditions then he obviously doesn't care about the dog or his friends opinion in the first place. If he did he would have at least made an attempt to clean up the kennel before he left but he's obviously either not embarrassed by it or he thinks there is nothing wrong with it in the first place.

Sorry guys but I disagree with you on this one. Get the dog out and let the guy know what you think when he gets home. But supposing he goes about it your way, what exactly do you think is gonna happen when the guys gets home?? Do you honestly think he's gonna turn over a new leaf? What if he just says well it's my dog and I'll do what I like?? Then what do you do? Calling law will get things rolling but most of the time they don't remove the animal right away so the dog gets to live in the filth either until they do or until he gets around to cleaning up his act.

[littlewoody]

Sounds like your friend needs his butt kick bad. You did the right thing.

[S.R.Patch]

Bunny,
There are old ways I would not expect you to understand.
Things about a man and respecting his ways and property.
We farm, and have had the law called on us by people who thought different or had no understanding of farming.
We weaned calves and had the law called on us because someone thought we had cattle in distress. It was annoying and embarrassing, the call came at 2:00am from the Sheriff office, they asked if we had cattle in distress? and we said, yes, the calves miss their mama's and the mama's miss their babies. The Sheriff ask if he needed to come over? and we said, yes, if there was anything he could do to calm their pining for each other? He said, hurmmm, we won't bother you any more, we said, thank you, good bye.
We try to have "happy cows" like they do in California, but just can't seem to get the hang of how they do it there...

I tried to just give an opinion of how the old ways worked. You help the hound and keep the friend, if possible. The way the ole worlds breaking down, friends and good neighbors will become a very important asset and I think this fellows friend just needs something that gone missing, you don't have good hounds as he said and then just care so little. I put more stock in people than that.
I hope I never have another neighbor that thinks so little of me that I wouldn't be worth a call or a visit, before the law was called to find out the problem. We just don't do things that way out here.
Best of luck to you...

[T LEE]

Patch , I wished that we lived in that world of putting faith in all people but there are alot of sorry people in this world. People that won't take care of their Kids... much less animals. In North Carolina we have a case of a dismembered child and the Father and Stepmother are involved. Another case of a Mother who Sold her child for drugs . The child was raped and killed . It's not just in North Carolina . Maybe the outcome would have been different if a neighbor would have taken a little more notice. A person that doesn't take care of their Kids/Pets won't change by a neighbor looking the other way.

[deerhost]

Patch, I am from the north east and my family has never farmed. But for what its worth I can relate to what you are saying and agree 100%. I would clean up the dog and the kennel, take care of it as I promised my friend, when he's back from his trip I would talk to him and tell him how I feel, offer to take the dog off his hands if he has issues and can not care for the dog. This way everyone saves face. Your looking out for the best interest of the dog, If your friend has no longer interest for dogs he can give you the dog and still be friends with you and be able to hunt with you and the dog, should he want to. If he refuses to take care of the dog the way he should but won't let you take the dog then I would take it from there. It's just the way I was raised. Thats what friends do for friends, Taking someones dog and not giving it back because you feel it's not being taken care of to your standards is really a reason to warrent your friend to want to punch you in the mouth. P.S., TLEE yes there are crappy people in this world, people who mistreat and take advantage, but we can't go around and treat everyone like they are that person. You give everyone the benifit of talking to them first and finding out. In this case its a friend. It won't hurt to talk to him first about the dog. I can't see just taking the guys dog while the guy is away from home before talking to him.........Just my opinion...Deerhost