Anybody tried this??? AKC registering non AKC dog Rules?

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Anybody tried this??? AKC registering non AKC dog Rules?

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So I got to looking at akc site and it says if you can prove that there is no break in lineage then they will AKC register your dog even if the parents were not registered but were registerable....

I am looking into it for a ukc dog i have that is one side akc and so is the other but the owner of the grandparents couldn't get papers for some reason... here is the process for it... Somehow they do the research for you..... fingers crossed :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:



FROM AKC SITE>...


My dog is a purebred, but it didn’t come with any papers. Its parents weren’t registered. Can I still register it with AKC?

Answer:

There are several options available to you to see if your dog can be registered. First, we encourage you to contact your breeder to determine if it is possible to receive AKC registration papers for your dog. The registration process is described here: http://www.akc.org/reg/registeradog.cfm

For a dog with papers from another domestic registry
If you cannot obtain AKC papers, AKC has a new program where we are researching pedigrees of dogs that do not have AKC paperwork to determine if the dog comes from AKC registrable stock.

In order to determine AKC registration eligibility, you will need to send AKC a copy of your dog’s pedigree, registration application and/or registration certificate from another registry. You can also submit documentation provided by the breeder such as a contract or bill of sale. The dog may qualify for registration if the pedigree shows no break in AKC lineage and the dogs in the pedigree originate from AKC registrable stock.

Should the dog be deemed registrable, AKC staff will register the dog in question for $30. All late fees will be waived.

When you submit your paperwork, please include your name and phone number. You can submit the paperwork in one of three ways:

1. Fax the information to 919-816-4232. Mark it attn: Registry Research.
2. Email images to altreg@akc.org. Place Registry Research in the subject line
3. Mail to:

AKC Registry Research
Attn: Special Services
8051 Arco Corporate Drive Suite 100
Raleigh, NC 27617
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I maynot be understanding this but how can you research a pedigree on a grade dog and can you proof it purebred Like i said i maynot be understanding what your doing

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i know a guy that had a ukc dog
and he had a pedigree on the dog
and he got it akc registered

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Akc will research the ped on your old registry until they find dog that matches up with an akc registry... then I am guessing the dna your dog to see if it goes back to that lineage and if it does then they will register your dog for you... I am just starting the process. I have to call AKC special services tomorrow and they are going to explain the particulars to me...just was wondering if anyone had experience with this.

I will post tomorrow morning and let you know how it goes...
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The only thing I think that is gona throw a kink in it is the dogs all say "not ukc registered" on the ENTIRE bottom side of the ped.... but we will see... not getting my hopes up..
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Good luck. I tried to register a top UKC dog. Her pedigree had some of the top producing beagles in the UKC. All I got back from AKC was a feble response stating they couldn't verify DNA. I hope it works for you.

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I've done it, sent copy of UKC pedigree on a female that for some reason the breeder decided not to register the liter AKC only UKC. Years later when she was 7 I had it done.

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I know it has been done with a few of the White River dogs, they
were UKC registered only at 1 time.

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I did it with one of my dogs father was akc mother was ukc only but a couple of generations back was akc breeder just didnt register with akc as long as you have paper work from another registry they will research it.
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I have a female that is 7 years old long time ago her akc papers got lost. I have 6 pups out of her and my stud that is akc reg,and i have 4 pup out of the spade dog that is akc reg.So what i am reading i can get them pups akc?
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I registered GRCH/GRHBCH White River Beau Of Touchstone with AKC.

1 Fax a letter and copy of your UKC registration to registry research. Fax# 919 816 3770
-Include AKC registration numbers of the dogs in the pedigree if you have them
-If there were any name changes from UKC to AKC include them in the letter
-provide your contact info and e-mail
2 AKC research dept will research the pedigree and if they approve your dog they will e-mail the necessary paperwork to you. Fill out the paperwork and use the pin # assigned to your dog and send it with a check for the reg fee ($30?). In a couple of weeks you should get your AKC reg.
3 DNA info was not necessary when I AKC registered my dogs. They research your dog's pedigree.
This program helps keep AKC pedigrees pure because some guys use to buy ficticious papers to put on a dog so that they could run AKC. Now a dog with proven ancestry can be AKC registered with its correct ancestry. Great program!
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talked to akc in-depth today--- they probably won't register my dog.. :( oh well, i'm gonna fax it like they said anyways but the bottom side of the ped doesn't go back far enough to prove anything...


just as I thought... although if I can convince the naitional beagle club of America to register my dog then they will honor it or if i register it in another country and then fill out import papers they can do it but thats ALOT of paperwork and hastle, just not worth it...
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i just emails AKC to that e-mail adress you guys provided. i sent them a scan of my dogs to see if I can get her AKC reg. Lets see if this works.

She is currently APRI reg when i bought the dog the man told me he didn't want to spend the money thru AKC to reg litters and that it was to much work so that is why he went thru APRI. so that means the dogs in her ped should be AKC. we'll see what happens.
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Let us know joey... that would be awesome... I talked to people with other breeds that did it yesterday....

What I can't figure out is if you really wanted to then you could take your dog to ukc, say it was a single registration fill in say--branko or northway on the pedigree and then send it in and you would be good to go... they don't do dna I guess so they go off what the paper says...

I honestly thought about ripping a ped off my dogs mom and her last breeding to an akc dog and sending in those papers to akc but my conscious got the better of me because I have been SCREWED on akc papers not being valid before... lost a lot of money in our rots....I just don't see how akc can prove if your lying or not because you don't have to dna the dog till it breeds so many times..and by that time your five gens in and then your stuck with the conditional registration thing akc does now...

I don't even trial akc or breed beagle dogs so I don't know why i am bothering with this.... just like stirring the pot i guess... :bash: :blackeye: :bigsmile:

I wish akc would do to beagles what they are doing with coonhounds and letting them all register for a certain period...I talked my buddy at akc and he said its a real possibility as akc looks for revenue streams....
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how long does it take for them to reply back to me? I sent them the email this morning.
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