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Lawsonsbeagles
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Coyotes

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Anyone been noticing the numbers of coyotes this summer? The places i hunt are over loaded with adults and pups. Its getting to the point where i hear five or six sets in the evenings where i hunt and they have lately srarted coming in on my races. Last time out after fighting through the copperheads, i started to call my hounds in because of all the coyotes and i be darn if i didnt call in two coyotes! Has anyone done this? It is getting rediculous so im going to step up and thin the herd! My question is, does anyone have any actuall success on a constant basis calling in coyotes with electronic or non electronic calls? If so let me know what you use specifically if you dont care. I want to get good at it and get to where i can thin some out. I never have hunted coyotes specefically but the start is near. Thanks in advance!
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The Mojo works great with a remote distress call it's like shooting ducks on a pond

hogbody
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Re: Coyotes

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The most efficient way to cut down the coyote population is by trapping. Either educate yourself on trapping methods or find a local trapper who will come it and trap them for you.
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Re: Coyotes

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Cut up some sponges and soak em in bacon grease they will eat em and cant pass em dead coyote. just put a flag where you put em so you can pick em up before you run your dogs or just dont run for a week or two.

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hogbody wrote:The most efficient way to cut down the coyote population is by trapping. Either educate yourself on trapping methods or find a local trapper who will come it and trap them for you.

I'd find someone that is already into it that will do it for you unless you want to get into coyote hunting. If so then go ahead, I would just rather spend that time with my beagles. And make sure he lets you know when and where he's trapping so you don't go running in an area where he's already got a bunch of traps set. We pulled up to one of our spots a few years ago and saw a fox in a leg hold trap right in a hedgerow that we always hit for bunnies. The landowner had let a guy set a few traps in there and it never even crossed his mind that our beagles could get hung up in them too. Of course the guy trapping is supposed to put up signs on the land he's trapping so that would have helped too.
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Lawsonsbeagles
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Re: Coyotes

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Trapping would work but i want to call them in. I want them to think they are getting a free meal and i want to drop the hammer when they get close. There are alot of dogs and calfs in the area as well so i dont want any accidents.
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I have 2 pit bulls that I have run with my dogs and they have killed a few they cant stand a coyote.

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calling coyotes in the eastern part of the country is pretty tough. We tryed in earnest for quite a while and found that we only averaged one or two coyotes for every fifteen to twenty attempts. I dont know anybody quite honestly that has done much better than that. Coyotes are very smart compared to most animals and I have my share on the wall including 150+ inch whitetail, mulies, antelope, goats, and moose, most of which were taken with a bow or a pistol. In my opinion, in my part of the country you get one crack at em, maybe if you are lucky. If they figure out it is a call and not a real animal in distress in our experience you will never see them again. Every guy in our neck of the woods who has gotten bored about february goes and buys a foxpro and starts squealing like a rabbit, believing all the hype he sees on tv about killin predators. What most of those guys dont tell you is they are mostly hunting out west where there is a lot more competition for food and coyotes and other predators are much easier to call in. This is all just my opinion and I am sure someboedy will want to tell me all about all the yotes he has killed and how easy it is but in my own personal experience they are one of the hardest animals to hunt I have come across. My partner and I could have killed hundreds of whitetails on these outings but took very few song dogs. Good luck, best advice I have for you is call them with something they have not likely heard before, woodpecker in distress, kitten in distress, puppy, etc, something they have not heard too much of and you will increase your odds. Happy huntin! they sure need thinned out!

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We went to one of are running places the other day there were lots of rabbits there last year but now nothing. The apple trees are full of apples and all over the ground theres nothing eating them theres trails up and down the fence rows and yote hare on the barbered wire. There isn`t any deer tracks or rabbit sign any more. We hunted the hole place and got one woodcoock up. I`ve been notesing every were around here the rabbits are getting fewer and its getting harder and harder to find a rabbit even deer are harder to find.
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Re: Coyotes

Post by ironjawdawgs »

This is about the most sure way I've found to hunt them. A buddy of mine has had some luck this past week getting a few. Just hard to keep Coyote and Beagle dogs without hunting one breed more than the other.
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Good luck and I hope you thin out a few.
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team fudd wrote:calling coyotes in the eastern part of the country is pretty tough. We tryed in earnest for quite a while and found that we only averaged one or two coyotes for every fifteen to twenty attempts. I dont know anybody quite honestly that has done much better than that. Coyotes are very smart compared to most animals and I have my share on the wall including 150+ inch whitetail, mulies, antelope, goats, and moose, most of which were taken with a bow or a pistol. In my opinion, in my part of the country you get one crack at em, maybe if you are lucky. If they figure out it is a call and not a real animal in distress in our experience you will never see them again. Every guy in our neck of the woods who has gotten bored about february goes and buys a foxpro and starts squealing like a rabbit, believing all the hype he sees on tv about killin predators. What most of those guys dont tell you is they are mostly hunting out west where there is a lot more competition for food and coyotes and other predators are much easier to call in. This is all just my opinion and I am sure someboedy will want to tell me all about all the yotes he has killed and how easy it is but in my own personal experience they are one of the hardest animals to hunt I have come across. My partner and I could have killed hundreds of whitetails on these outings but took very few song dogs. Good luck, best advice I have for you is call them with something they have not likely heard before, woodpecker in distress, kitten in distress, puppy, etc, something they have not heard too much of and you will increase your odds. Happy huntin! they sure need thinned out!
You are absolutly right. I did a lot of research on coyote calling and talked to a lot of people who have tried it. Even the best say if you see one yote every dozen times out you are doing good. Mostly they just get educated. Running them with dogs is fun but you may run one yote for miles all day and shoot just one or two. I know a guy who is a very good trapper. Here's how he explained it to me. Say you got a pack of yotes in an area. You drop a pack of hounds and they start running one yote while the rest of the yotes just scatter and regroup after the chase has left the area. If a trapper comes in and sets a lot of steel in an area, he may catch several a night until they wise up. This guy trapped an area last year and took 8 yotes in three days. I think the odds are with trapping.
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Re: Coyotes

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I try to run beagle every chance I get, But in the winter we really get after the coyotes. We call quite a bit and maybe get
4 or 5 a year. My buddy does some trapping and might get 3-5. Trapping is a art and is hard to do unless somebody show you all the tricks. A good trapper can wipe a area out. A beginner might get lucky and get a couple. With the coyote hounds we kill 25 to 35 a year. Running the hounds hands down is by far the funnest way to go. All your buddies can go and nothing compares to a pack of hounds running and catching a coyote. Tracking the dogs with the new garmins almost makes it to easy.

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RYAN KEMP wrote:Cut up some sponges and soak em in bacon grease they will eat em and cant pass em dead coyote. just put a flag where you put em so you can pick em up before you run your dogs or just dont run for a week or two.
No offense, but I beg to differ. I have a beagle that has eaten better than half a love seat (the foam part) and she's still ticking. So if my beagle can sh#t foam why couldn't a yote?

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darn nice looking hound right there! That's a Walker right?

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Re: Coyotes

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Gotta agree the sponge deal wont work.A coyote can eat just about anything and come out fine.I used to do quite a bit of calling ,still do some when letting dogs rest up,and generally killed 20 to 25 coyotes a year.Trapping is by far the best control of any and all varmints.I've had a few years when I took 100 coyotes in a season(trapping for coyotes lasted longer than regular season and they got to be $50 a piece).If you don't want to use foothold traps,I believe cable restraints are legal in KY.Cable restraint is a snare that uses a nonlocking lock that relaxes pressure when the animal quits pulling.Any dog that has been on a leash ,lead,or chain will usually set there until released.The main thing is to set where it can't become entangled in any woody vegetation.Coyotes don't associate it with any danger and one can even catch them on open trails.

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