Front Legs Get Destroyed after a run (Update Pic 8-9-10)

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Re: Front Legs Get Destroyed after a run (Update Pic 8-9-10)

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Might try cuttin his legs off lol

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that might slow him down just enough for my other dogs to keep up.......lol :lol:
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rabbitsmoker wrote:Might try cuttin his legs off lol
It might come to that if this hound doesn't get some attention. My hounds feet went from what you have showed here to an infected toe 3 times its normal size in about 2 days time. Get this hound on some antibiotics.

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Joey the way it looks on his sides and looks like his neck too I'd run him to the vet for a check up.

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joey looks like red mange to me they get it from the mother when they r 3 to 4 days old it can lay dormant 4'', 2 yrs. if it is and it looks like it u have to go internal through the blood stream only thing will cure it is ivomectrin a1 cc aday 4 ';2 months and then if hes clear 2 more wks i have afemale with itnow but i cured her that way this is all per my vet u can call him if u want jim rabon he is the best i ever saw 910-754-8165 tellhimi refered u barry pace if he cant talk he will call u back . now u will have people say oh u will kill him with that much ivo.but not so if its red mange he will die anyway but this worked 4 me and mine was as bad as it gets oh yes u can run him while u treat him
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deerhost wrote:I had a dog with the same problem. Everytime the redness went away and it started to look better I wuold try to run the dog. It got worse everytime, more redness, more hair loss and it started getting crusty. I layed the dog up, gave it Ivermectin 1/10 cc per 10 pounds of dogs weight every day for 30 days. Hair started to grow back in two weeks but the dog was not completely healed tel about day 30. I would lay the dog up. I know you probably don't want to here that but that is my opinion...DH

Guys this is called red mange...the crusty on the skin is yeast! caused form the demodex mites. The grass and etc..is upsetting the skin and allowing the demodex to build up in the small sores. That is why the hair is falling out They bed in the hair folicles and scapes in the skin. After seeing that closer picture i'm pretty sure it is red mange mine started the same way!. Ivomec is the first thing to try, but the problem is alot of times after you stop ivomec the mange can return b/c the dogs immune system is boggged down or lacking something to keep the demodex mites at bay. So you have to be sure you identify the underlying problem that is allowing the dogs body to let the mites take over. Alot of times the ivomec can just be what is fighting off the demodex by itself you stop using it comes back, IF you have'nt identified what is allowing the mange to take over. Fish oil helps good job there!!!! That helped more than anything in my dogs case!
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THE ONLY THING THAT CAUSES RED MANGE IS MITES THEY CONTACT FROM MOTHER AT 3 TO 4 DAYS OLD THEY CAN LAY DORMANT 4 UP TO 18 TO 24 MONTHS IVEROMECTRINE IS ONLY THING WILL CURE IT IF GIVEN 2 1/2MONTS EVERDAY AFULL CC U HAVE TO GO INTERNALLY TO KILL RED MANGE NOTHING TOPICAL WILL GET ITTHIS IF IT I S NFACT THE RED MANGE IM TREATING MY DOG AS WE SPEAK IF U KILL ALL MITES IT WILL NOT COME BACK U CANT GET IT RUBBING ON ANOTHER DOG OR NEITHER CAN THEY GET IT FROM ANOTHER DOG EXCEPT FROM MOTHER A SIMPLE SCRAPE OF SKIN UNDER AMICROSCOPE WILL SKOW RIGHT AWAY IF ITS RED MANGE
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starting him on ivomec today. got him on the fishoil pills as of last night. hopefully he'll get this out of his system soon. thanks for all the help.
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check this article out. go to second to last paragraph for treatment - http://beaglesunlimited.com/health/demo ... -treatment



"Another treatment that works very well and is also fairly inexpensive is the use of Ivomec for cattle. This is the same medication talked about in the article called Canine Heartworms and Inexpensive Prevention. If you are going to buy the Ivomec for the heartworm prevention, then you might as well use it for getting rid of demodex mange mites as well as ear mites. I administer a subcutaneous (under the skin) injection at the back of the neck, consisting of 1/10 cc of Ivomec for cattle per 10 lbs of Beagle body weight. I give one shot every seven days for 3 consecutive doses. Explained differently, that is one shot, wait 7 days, give a second shot, wait 7 more days, and then give a third shot. This is a very effective treatment for both mange mites and ear mites. If you are already buying the large bottles of Ivomec for cattle to use as a heartworm prevention, then you might as well also use it for this purpose when needed. This is a very clean treatment method, and for maximum effectiveness can be used in conjunction with the first or second treatment method listed above. NOTE: This treatment is a liquid medication that is given orally and attacks the mites from the inside out"



however alll the other google search's suggest the 1/10cc per 10lbs once a day. I'm going with .2cc everyday for 30days. see what happens. i'll let you guys know.
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You want to nip it in the butt. Do as I said 1/10 cc. per 10 pounds. 30 days straight. STOP running the dog. The pup will get better and his hair will start growing back in a few weeks. Usually young dogs will get this. If you get it under control, the dog biulds his own immune defense to combat the mite. Most often he will never have the problem again after he matures...Good Luck....DH

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I always heard once the was born with red mange they had it forever had to stay on medication it was in the blood and could be passed in generation just what i have been told

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Thats what a real rabbit hound should look like after a run.Hurtin for certain and ready to do it again the next day. :D

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he is on Ivomec just gave him under .3cc in the mouth. I will cut back running on him but i hate to do it. its killing me. mid september he's going back to full on running.
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My particular dog was 4 years old before she contracted it. She had an internal infection that bogged down her immune system and allowed her to become succeptible to red mange. I used ivomec and it helped to clear it up. Once i stopped using ivomec it came back b/c the dogs immune system was back in good order yet. Ivomec will clear it up, but it won't stay gone if the dogs immune system is'nt in good condtion. My female had a second break out b/c of that reason. I did'nt use ivomec this time. I used nu-stock and fish oil pills. the nu-stock killed the mites and grew the hair back with in 3 weeks. The fish oil helped to put her back in good health and also promotes healthy skin and coat. nu-stock is not a cure! it is a very good treatment though. It hlped to fight off the mange while still allowing the immune system to build up to fight off the mites as well. Ivomec can kill it alone, but the dogs immune system needs to be built back up. lots of times ivomec also kills the source that is bogging down the immune system. There is alot of different opinions on if it's a genetic disorder or not. my own conclusion is if the hound geneticaly has a weak immune system the it is more succeptible there is information out there that supports that. like the link i posted earlier. This female had a litter of pups 6 months before this took place none of hte pups ever came down with red mange they are almost 4 years old now. My experience tells me it's not JUST genetic. if at all. Lots of arguements over that topic if you look into there is information that supports both sides. puppies can contract if from the mother. but all dogs are known to carry this mite.

here is the link for nu-stock
http://nustock.com/
I would recommend using this in conjuction with ivomec and any other treatment you are using. It's a great product!
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Re: Front Legs Get Destroyed after a run (Update Pic 8-9-10)

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Thats basically what ive been told the same way an older hound can carry parvo and other diseases and pass it to make others effected by the virus but this hound imo looks like briar imbrassions to me

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