Which is harder to accomplish IFC or World Hunt Winner

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Which is harder to accomplish IFC or World Hunt Winner

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just had a thought and wanted to know which is harder for a dog to accomplish. Is becoming a IFC harder to do. Or is winning the title WORLD HUNT WINNER harder to do?
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IFC, The time and money is topped by no other.
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BUT to win the world the dog has to beat out sometimes 700 dogs. Is that true or am I thinking that wrong.

Not really sure what a dog has to do to make IFC

I think its impressive for a dog to beat out so many at the world hunt. Am I thinking this right or am I wrong?
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I'm sure both have their difficulties and challenges. Both probably takes its toll on a hound and its owner/handler. Another factor on getting these achievements accomplished is both having a hound with tons of bottom and desire. Another major factor will be the judges. I haven't been on the trial circuit long but I do know just like beaglers, judges have different opinions on how a hound should run a rabbit. With all these factors weighing down on a hound, plus the competition and running conditions, both are equal in difficulty of getting accomplished. My 02 cents.
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joey to make a dog a IFC the dog has to become a champion in akc n a champion in cananda then he is a international field champion when you win a world hunt with 700 dogs it goes by elimination the dog dont beat that many at one time i think its 5 dogs to a cast and the winner keeps advancing till it gets down to the final cast im shure others can explain it alot better jb
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Both are heck of accomplishments. But their is only One World Winner a Year in each Class. If you are looking at numbers.
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MasonsBeagles wrote:Both are heck of accomplishments. But their is only One World Winner a Year in each Class. If you are looking at numbers.

Merly because there is only 1 world held a year.There is only a small numbers of IFC Titles obtained for several reasons each year, Money, Age And Travel.Money is number one on my list.Probaly a additional thousand if all goes well.
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If I am not mistaken all you have to do is place in one trial to be able to compete in a World Trial in ARHA. So to me this means that you place a hound in a trial and win the world trial and this makes you a World Hunt winner?
To become an IFC you have to win 3 AKC trials get 100 points, with 3 CKC trials get 100 points. It seems to me that IFC takes alot more time and not just have a couple of weeks of good runnin.
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In my opinion it would be harder to become a world hunt winner,There is only one hunt per year so you have one chance a year.To become an ifc you could go to a trial every weekend if you wanted to travel.If you wanted just 1 of your dogs to win the world and it was a year old and it took 5 trys it is now 6 years old you could have went to 5 hunts in 5 weeks to be on your way to ifc JMO
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If anyone thinks either one is easy, load up your dog and go for it. The ARHA has 3 world hunt winners each year, open, champion, and grand champion out of about 700 plus dogs. I don't know anyone that has won the world or made an IFC that hasn't paid their dues, money, long hours running. I can't imagine anybody doing the IFC if they didn't live right on the border, just because of the expense.

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HERE is another thing I don't understand. Are the CKC rules different than AKC rules. I am not familiar with CKC


I think wining the world hunt means a heck of alot. Even though its process of eliminations the dog that wins beat out alot of compitition in one day.

And I also think IFC is just has hard to accomplish too.

Are their any IFC's that won the World?
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Joeyman wrote:Are their any IFC's that won the World?
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what if a hound accomplished both? REGGIE !!!!!!!

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Reggie is the only one I know. I was thinking Shooter did too but could be wrong.

Unbelievable accomplishment either way. Couldnt imagine winning either of them.

As far as the World goes. It is a once in a lifetime accomplishment. To do it more would be unreal. I may be wrong but I think 4 times is the most it has been won. Kevin Monroe, Earl Bruner and the Mcguires I think have won it 4 times. Says as much about the dogs as it does the owners.
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Re: Which is harder to accomplish IFC or World Hunt Winner

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I would say it is harder to make an IFC. I run about 2 or 3 AKC trials a year. For the last several years I have been extremely disappointed in the judging in AKC. And, the pool of judges keeps getting smaller and smaller.
If you look at the trials in Better Beagling, a few judges are getting most of the assignments. The poor judging drives me crazy. I can't stand more than one trial every six months. I am not saying there are not great judges in AKC, but the same few judges are in the book, month after month.

The last hunt I went to was an absolute cluster. The judging was the poorest I have ever seen in any association in 40 years of trialing. And one of the judges is constantly judging, just because he says yes. No matter how faulty dogs are in a cast, he won't pick them up. But trial after trial, he keeps getting chosen. How can he ever know what dogs are the best, if he never picks up dogs until he handles the pack. C'mon, try judging for a change and sort through the dogs.

I can't imagine going to enough hunts to make a dog an IFC. For this reason, and this reason only, I would say making a dog an IFC is harder. Who in their right mind could stand it? :shock:

The quality of dogs is high no matter the format. Each accomplishment is special. But, I would say the judging at the World Hunt is significantly better. I was out every round this year, either handling or as a spectator, and I saw some great judging. To me, this makes winning the World a greater honor, making an IFC much harder.
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