A general forum for the discussion of hunting with beagles, guns, clothing and other equipment and just talking dawgs! (Tall tales on hunting allowed, but remember, first liar doesn't stand a chance)
get on a grey hound and I,ll pick you up at the bus station and feed you breakfast ,let you see my culls run and then let you pick out 1 or 2 to carry back home and show them hare hounds how its done southern style ,and by the way its all in fun I would love to come up and run some wide open country where you guys hunt I have heard alot about it and how the races go out of hearing and back we do not get alot of that most of our races are within about 5 acres in real thick briars and water it would be nice not to have to get sewn up or call for a rescue boat every other time we go rabbit hunting btu as everyone knows it takes different types of dogs for different types of country and different types of rabbits but I bet you one thing yours would adapt down here real quick and ours would adapt up there real quick because neither one of us is going to feed a sorry dog and as the saying goes I can feed a good dog for the same amount of money I feed a sorry dog
For the record, I didn't say the races didn't cover more than five acres, You Can't work the cover and jump the cottontails in five acres in a day is what I said.
FOR SURE IT ALL FUN WE RUN GROUND LIKE THAT UP HERE TOO IT IS JUST HARD TO FIND
AN MAN I ROAD A GREY HOUND ONCE NEVER AGAIN. HAD TO GO TO WV AND I WAS ON THE BUS FOR 30 HOURS WHEN IT IS OLNY A 13 HOUR DRIVE. THAT WAS THE OLNY TIME I GOT CAR SICK AND TO SET NEXT TO A BIG GUY 250 PLUS THAT HAD BEEN ON THERE FOR 3 DAYS COMMING FROM SOUTHERN TEXAS. NEED LESS TO SAY HE COULDENT STAND HIMSELF
There have been many discussion on here in regards to hunting / jumping style. Some dogs cover a lot of ground and are looking more for a track. Others hunt slow and methodically checking every bush and briar patch completely before moving on...trying to find the rabbit sitting.
I understand that the more methodical dog is not going to very effective up north and often the dog that covers ground fast is not going to be very effective on many day down south. If we get a hard freeze down south and a heavy frost. The rabbit literly will sit until you about step on them or the dog get on top of them. There is NO scent on the ground.
Those are the two extremes on the scale slow / methodical and ground covering hounds. A Good hunting / jumping dogs will adjust and learn where the rabbits are and how to get them up. Just like a good track dog should be able to gear up and gear down to keep the track going. Good dogs ought to be able to jump rabbits down south in blackberry thickets and up north in the big woods.
I will agre Pete.But I ve seen CharpKosbeagle dogs.There some of the best dogs I every seen.He can bring them dogs down here and our rabbits want have a chance.I give all my feet warmer away now that I seen his dogs there the best.Anybody got any Jet air plane begles for sell.Cause that is what you need in the south to run a rabbit.
just my opinion but as long as i can hear my dogs running and they come when i call them i dont care how far out they hunt. they're the ones with the noses its their job to find the rabbits i dont care where they find them, just as long as they do.
No, right or wrong answer what one likes someone else does not.My personal prefrence is I like dogs to hunt close and move in the direction I am moving while hunting.I don't mean feet warmers. Your dogs can still hunt hard and be close.In my experience dogs hunting with me are far less to cause problems than wide rangy hunting dogs.Young dogs in particular need to be within seeing distance.I I agree with rabbitearl nothing more enjoyable that watching a dog hunt when they don't smell.Those jumps right off the bed in tough hunting conditions is the true measure of a hunting dog. I have owned 2 outstanding in 35 years of beagling several above average and my share of sorry ones...
It may take a good while to kill all the rabbits in 5 acres,but I think that is a little small of an area. Like all the folks from out east that bring those low end medium speed dogs out here and try to just ruin a place. They will not rest until every leaf has been turned and every rabbit shot. I say hunt on and leave a few for seed.
I think the 5 acre comment has been taken a little to literal. We could hunt 5 acres all day all jump rabbits all day. But thats not the way we hunt. When one chase ends, usually on a road, we move to the other side of the road and continue. I asked the question about breaking a dog from hunting wide because I like to watch the dog work the brush and jump the rabbit. Thats what I like. I don't care if the rabbit is killed or not. I didn't get into beagling because I want the meat. Some days we may hunt with only one other person, and none of us are great shots, so the chase may last for hours. Theres nothing wrong with that. If the dog can't be broken from hunting wide then he will be gone.
mike crabtree wrote:It may take a good while to kill all the rabbits in 5 acres,but I think that is a little small of an area. Like all the folks from out east that bring those low end medium speed dogs out here and try to just ruin a place. They will not rest until every leaf has been turned and every rabbit shot. I say hunt on and leave a few for seed.
I don't have a good jump dog, my hunting partners miss( I do too, but they don't need to know that), and like deer, we don't like to clean too many at a time. We leave plenty of rabbits. I was trying to make a point of why I would want my dogs to take their time and work the cover hard. Also I try to control where the dogs jumps in hope that the rabbits circle will carry past our hunters who are not as mobile as us. My mother for one. I myself tone the dogs back to me and move on slowly as they hunt or just ease along behind them if they are heading in the direction I want to hunt. I do perfer that they hunt in the same general direction.
my style(with seasoned hounds) is just sit on the chair on the trail and wait for the bark to here the race to start.
it may start at my feet or it may be a half mile deep,but i tell you one thing my dog dont hunt the same area twice he hunts and moves on.
I GUESS THE WAY I PUT IT I LIKE THEM TO TURN THE LEAVES REAL FAST(EVERY LEAF) COVER EVERY SPOT BUT OLNY DO IT ONCE. NO POINT IN CHECKING A SPOT THAT THEY COVERED ALREADY (THAT WHAT I CALL A JUMP DOG ) ,BUT I GUESS I AM PICKY
We hollar every so often so the dogs know where we are and we have them stay close enough to see by turning in a different dorection if they get too far out and hollaring when we do. Not calling, but a location yell. The dogs will swing around to hunt in the direction we turned.
I have seen many times the problem of a dog that will quickly get way out away from the other dogs and thus away from you because it cannot keep up comfortably with the other dogs and wants to jump and run its own rabbit. A dog that has been run too much solo and wants its independance and away from the bumping and josling of other dogs will do the same.
