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Giving safeguard liquid cattle wormer? I have used it for a few years and follow all the recommended dosages. Problem is, my dogs hate the taste of it and fight me all the way giving it to them. Anyone ever try mixing it with something better tasting? Any ideas would help.

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Change to Equimax horse wormer as they like it. Put on a !/4 size piece of bread folded up.

With bad tasting medicine, either put in mouth with syrenge or put inside raw sausage or vienna sausage and throw to each one so they will gobble it down before another one gets it. Won't hurt to miss a couple meals beforehand either.

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mine hate the equimax worse than anything.

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FrancoMo1678 wrote:mine hate the equimax worse than anything.

this stuff works for me, going on my 2nd year with it . whats the reason for your dislike ?
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paducahky1 does the equimax kill all types of worms in the dogs and what dose do you give each dog?

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I give one click per dog each month starting May through October here in warm Alabama. It gets them all, including Heart worm prevention.

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Thanks Alabama John. Do you give this to pups also or just the grown dogs.

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Just grown dogs. I start them on Equimax when they are big enough to look like they are grown dogs. Notice I don't give it year round.

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A.J.,
WHAT IS THE REASON THAT YOU DON'T GIVE IT YEAR ROUND?
JAMEY

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[quote][/quote]this stuff works for me, going on my 2nd year with it . whats the reason for your dislike ?
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oh i like it works real well for taped , just seems like the dogs hate the taste

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I feel worms get used to any one kind of treatment so when flies and larvea are not active I quit. I feel they go to ground so when I quit, I put down HYDRATED LIME in pens to kill and eat anything in ground.

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Thanks again Alabama John. I also use the Hydrated Lime in my pens, it helps keep the odor down to.

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I take mine and a glass of milk pour some milk in a bowl then add wormer mix it up mine drink it up or for my Jack Russel hes pretty slick I buy beef broth and pour it in
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lined out wrote:Giving safeguard liquid cattle wormer? I have used it for a few years and follow all the recommended dosages. Problem is, my dogs hate the taste of it and fight me all the way giving it to them. Anyone ever try mixing it with something better tasting? Any ideas would help.
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Actually, my tip for use of this wormer would be not to give it at all, or (at most) once every 6 months. There are FAR cheaper, better overall wormers to use.

When you say you give "the recommended dose," what does this mean exactly? The reason I say this is the dose on this drug (fenbendazole) has changed. Anyone who gives this drug "once a month" is using it improperly. For years, the recommended dose was 1 ml per 4.4 lb, given 3 days in a row. Now, however, the amount to give remains the same, but it's now twice daily, for 3 days in a row.

In the end, Safeguard is an expensive, labor-intensive worm med that is really for ruminants, not dogs. Ruminants (cows, etc.) have LONG digestive tracts and as such Safeguard (which is a very WEAK drug) is able to stay in a cow long enough to do its job. For dogs, Safeguard/Panacur does have wide coverage, but because it is so weak (and because a dog's digestive tract is so short), in order to make it work at all you now have to give it twice daily, for 3 days in a row, in order to give enough of this drug to work.

It doesn't matter if it's labeled for "horses" or "goats" or "cows" or "dogs" the active drug is the same, and it needs to be given at the right dose, for the right animal, for the right duration of time, in order to work at all. Some of these "catch-all" wormers for horses (Equimax, etc.) seem to have the answer for dogs too, but oftentimes they are dosed wrong for a dog. In other words, giving a "click" of Equimax for a dog may dose him right with one med, but not enough for another. And, again, if it isn't being given twice a day, for 3 days in a row, the fenbendazole in the mixture is not being used correctly.

It is far easier and far cheaper in the long run to stick with a generic pyrantel, and a generic ivermectin, for your monthly dog wormings. If you need the specific meds for tapeworm, then there are far cheaper ways to get that same drug (praziquantel). The only real reason to use Safeguard at all, really, is for whipworm. So if your dogs don't have this affliction, it is best not to even bother with the drug.

Good luck,

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I give it ever other month I go by The site http://www.beaglesunlimited.com tells about what you need to know have been doing it for years 1 cc per 5 pounds of dog and give Ivomec every month for heart worms and some other worms but I do give safe-guard dewormer ,have given it at 2-4 weeks to the pups just a little and they past round worms
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