Dogs that can lock on a cottontail
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Rhill Bramletts Butchm owned by Oneal Basham. He is out of Maverick and an orginal Bramlett bitch. He is almost 9 now.
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i was gona sit back and listen but i have to say I HAVE A DOG THAT LOCKS ON TO THE RABBIT LIKE HE IS TIED TO IT he is not as experienced on hair as he needs more time on them but he dont lose a cotton tail for nothin locks on like he is tied to it he has gears and all the speed you want in as hound and always willing to show him in the woods with anything



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I have one thanks to a good friend. She did it the other day. Ol 9 year old whipped those dogs all day long. She left nothing for them.
They have one I know of out of her. Seen a few others but very few that could do it for a long time.
They have one I know of out of her. Seen a few others but very few that could do it for a long time.
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AlabamaSwamper, I think you're right. It seems like very few can keep one circling for any length of time. Many can circle once, but I don't see a whole lot these days that can keep one going for a long time. In my mind, this is what we should be breeding for first.
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No doubt.
These two dogs can lock on a rabbit and keep it up for hours if allowed with few mistakes.
These two dogs can lock on a rabbit and keep it up for hours if allowed with few mistakes.
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I'm very partial to "Jack" dogs, but if I had to switch, I would probably would consider Wier Creek for this very reason. I have seen many who can run a rabbit to death.
Maybe not quite the speed you want though Stan.....although I have seen a few I would rate 7 or 8 in speed. What breeding are you working with now?
Maybe not quite the speed you want though Stan.....although I have seen a few I would rate 7 or 8 in speed. What breeding are you working with now?
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Skip, I PM'd you.
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I'll get to find out all about this Moochie dog in about a week or so. Any time you want to do some gun hunting over her you let me know and you can come up do some.Greg H wrote:I've never seen Junie hunt but I can tell you he is throwing some unbeleivable dogs. Jimmie's got a gyp that I had the pleasure of gun hunting last year. Moochie can flat lock on a rabbit. I seen her run one thru heavy cover, across a parking lot, across an cut corn field, (maybe 200 yards going across the rows) under a barn and out the other side, under a mobile home and was tearing the skirting off where the rabbit came out cause the hole wasn't big enough for her, and back to the thick cover where the rabbit holed up. I had to literally pull her off the hole as she was trying to dig that rabbit out of the frozen ground. This particular run lasted maybe 25 minutes and had to cover 3/4 mile. I don't recall any checks. I never tried to set up for the shot, I just watched. Jimmie, I am sure missin Moochie this year.
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Chapko's, what bloodline is he?
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I have never seen a dog that can solo or run in a pack and just keep the race going. She is a race saver and always seems to come up witht he toughest checks. I have ran with a lot of beagles but I have found very few that I would say are in the same class with this special dog. I have owned some solid dogs but in my mind nothing ever came close to being the rabbit dog that Ivy is. Not flashy, probably not going to win any midwest trials, under 12" but has the heart of a lion, ton of hunt, never had off game problems, some might say she has an extra bark, Huge nose, and when your drop the tailgate in the dead of a MI winter in some brutual conditions you have the peace of mind knowing she will produce game. She is a "gun dog" and I wouldn't call many of them out there today that. Pure joy to have watched this dog and gun over her in the last 5 or 6 years. If I was breeding beagles and had a dog that I would strive to have in my kennel this would be the measuring stick.
I have never seen a dog that can solo or run in a pack and just keep the race going. She is a race saver and always seems to come up witht he toughest checks. I have ran with a lot of beagles but I have found very few that I would say are in the same class with this special dog. I have owned some solid dogs but in my mind nothing ever came close to being the rabbit dog that Ivy is. Not flashy, probably not going to win any midwest trials, under 12" but has the heart of a lion, ton of hunt, never had off game problems, some might say she has an extra bark, Huge nose, and when your drop the tailgate in the dead of a MI winter in some brutual conditions you have the peace of mind knowing she will produce game. She is a "gun dog" and I wouldn't call many of them out there today that. Pure joy to have watched this dog and gun over her in the last 5 or 6 years. If I was breeding beagles and had a dog that I would strive to have in my kennel this would be the measuring stick.
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O's Blue Buddy is a dog that comes to my mind when I think back to dogs that could really grab and lock onto a rabbit. I remember the first time seeing him run when he was one years old solo a rabbit in some nasty conditions. I can recall the rabbit coming out on a path, coming towards me, stop, double back, and into the weeds. Buddy gradually worked his way to the double, hushed his mouth, went back, "leaned" the right way, and went on without missing a beat. He made a difficult check seem easy. He was not the fastest hound, but he could get it done. Later in his years, field trials really got the best of him, and he was never the same hound. In my experience, very few can keep their heads when pressured too much. He was owned by Steve Orewiler and out of Spicer's Blueback. The hound is deceased. Buddy will still go down as one of my favorites despite his later years. I gunned over Buddy quite a few times and enjoyed him.
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I have a dog that can solo as long as you are willing to let him. Not much of a dog, too slow. Rabbits don't feel that a dog like that is much of a threat, and I think sometimes they actually enjoy the game of being tracked so they hop off a ways and stop and listen. When the dog gets close they go again. This dog is so track minded I have seen a rabbit run right by him and he didn't run after it, just started tracking it. He will run the back of a fast pack but alone he is a walker or trotter. I have seen him "point" a rabbit he was tracking. The rabbit sat down after about an hour, the dog and I both saw him and the dog went into a point like a bird dog. After a minute or two I figured I might as well flush this bunny because the dog ain't moving. I did, and the dog started tracking again. That was a sight point, I have also seen him scent point a bedded rabbit and hold it like a bird dog. AKC dog but methinks there might be something funny in his family tree.
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ironjawdawgs wrote:I'll get to find out all about this Moochie dog in about a week or so. Any time you want to do some gun hunting over her you let me know and you can come up do some.Greg H wrote:I've never seen Junie hunt but I can tell you he is throwing some unbeleivable dogs. Jimmie's got a gyp that I had the pleasure of gun hunting last year. Moochie can flat lock on a rabbit. I seen her run one thru heavy cover, across a parking lot, across an cut corn field, (maybe 200 yards going across the rows) under a barn and out the other side, under a mobile home and was tearing the skirting off where the rabbit came out cause the hole wasn't big enough for her, and back to the thick cover where the rabbit holed up. I had to literally pull her off the hole as she was trying to dig that rabbit out of the frozen ground. This particular run lasted maybe 25 minutes and had to cover 3/4 mile. I don't recall any checks. I never tried to set up for the shot, I just watched. Jimmie, I am sure missin Moochie this year.
Elliott
Ironjaw, you won't be disappointed. Moochie is a fine dog. I believe she is gonna make a hell of a bitch to. Lots of power behind her. I had her littermate brother (max) as a pup but never got the opprotunity to start him good, but he was showing signs of being a monster. I had a 3 yr. old bramlett gyp that I was using to start him and he would get 100' in front of her blowin out of a check and then turn around and look back like " are ya comin or what". Then I traded him to Jimmie for Moochie and felt really guilty for a couple of months cause I felt like I had got the better end of the deal. But then I started hearin reports back from Ky. Max had done come out of his shell and was makin Jimmie proud. Your gonna love that mouth on Moochie, oh ya almost forgot, when ya take her out ya better not have anyplace you need to be for about 8 hours. If ya try to leave sooner than that she'll be pissed off for days.

I gotta tell ya story about this gyp just to show how tuff she is. It's June, it's hot, and the only runnin she's gettin is when she slips out of the fence and goes on her own. (This was about a twice a week occurance) This by the way is how Jimmie got her back, cause my job kept me traveling and she is just to nice a dog to get put up like that. Anyway. My kids decide its time to put up the pool. One of those blue monsters 4' deep and 28' round. We had horses racing that day so we were gone all day. Some time around 10 a.m Moochie decides its time for a swim. She climbs or jumps into the pool but can't get back out. The neighbor saw her in there and thought I was swimmin dogs again. Around 2 p.m. the neighbor looks again and sees her dissapearing and then comin back up so she jumps the fence runs to the pool to find Moochie on the bottom. She jumps in, pulls her out and by this time Moochie is alive but clearly hypothermic. Dying. So she lays her up by the house in the afternoon sun. I got home about 6 and the neighbor come runnin over to tell me what happened. Long story Longer, Moochie slept in bed that night I went to sleep knowing that she would be dead by morning. She woke me up a daybreak wanted to go huntin. I delivered her to Ky. 2 weeks later and I'll bet she ain't missed to many days since.
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I went east for the holidays and got a chance to stop in and meet and visit with Laneline beagles a few days. I got the opportunity to see two hounds that I have heard a lot about from different friends and on different websites. I got to see that Ozzie dog run for a short while, he is the real deal. He is older, but if you know hounds you can pretty much tell what a good hound was in his prime seeing them almost at any age. But the dog that I am talking about is Laneline Yellow Creek Dingus. When I say this, I don’t want any of you fellows thinking I am blowing smoke. I have been gunning beagles for over 55 years. I am 68 and shot my first rabbit with my dad when I was 10. When I was a teenager my uncles had me handling their hounds in trials. Between all the grade gundogs and all the field trial dogs that I have seen over the years, {which have been some great ones} Laneline’s Dingus male is one of the best, if not the best I have seen to this date. I am talking about the total package nose, hunt, line, speed, brains, drive and obedience all in one dog, he is it! By himself or watching him dominate a pack. The dog has gears and brains and adjusts to the dogs he is running with. I watched this dog, he was like a boxer feeling out his opponite the first two rounds, in the first 15 minutes of running and then he geared up or down, made adjustments and put on a show. My uncles described watching Gray’s Linesman in the same way that I viewed this male. Jim told me he is just now starting to come on strong after being gunned over this year. Another thing I didn’t know is that he is just 2 ½ years old. For as much that is said about him and his pups {for a dog that is not trialed} that says a lot. We told Jim he has to get that dog in the trials, and his pups to some trialers, but he said work just will not permit him to at this time, and as far as his pups, through the hunting clubs that he belongs to and their friends and contacts, it’s pretty much who ever calls him first. He said that he thought about letting somebody else trial him, but he really don’t know yet. This would be “one of those dogs” that you would “hate” to be put in a cast with. Even if your dog is faster or had a better nose or claimed quicker, a dog like this has the brains to make the adjustments to find a way to beat you, and he just “glides” when he does it and makes it look effortless. He is that dominating and that good. I have only seen a handful of dog like this in my life, and he is one of them. I would say that there are a few just like him in the backyards of some gun hunters that know body knows about because they can’t or don't trial.