FAILING TO HONOR A STUD FEE

[Bart Caudill]

Everybody does stuff different I guess.
Here in Kentucky, if he didn't give back the money, he might get an old fashoned azz whoopin.

Bottom line, he promised you something for your $150, and now he can't give you that something.
So in my mind, he owes you a refund.

[Spruce Ridge Beagler]

I agree with Swamper,
The owner who sold the dog should have made it very clear to the buyer that there was outstanding stud services out there. Then the buyer could back out of the purchase if he didn't want to honor them.
This one falls on your buddies shoulders the way you have described it.

[Pike Ridge Beagles]

His "buddy" should have told the new owner the situation and had that worked out so he could breed to him with the new owner in this case.

Can't say that I disagree with you here.

[sanfordssj]

This thread has given me some insight on somethings that i never took into consideration.


1. Always have eveything in writting
A. Experation date
B. how many pups is considered a litter
C. What the stud fee actually covers

What else should be on this??

[eddywilliams]

Credit Card #

[bill (flint river )]

this is why i dont pay for a stud fee till after the pups are here. just for this reason only.

[Hatfield]

Tony Akers and I took a bitch to John L's Doc when he was owned by Mike Bellamy. It was the second bitch we had taken up there. First one was a pleasant experience had 10 pups. The second didn't have any. Mike said we could breed to Doc again. I had no problems with that. Mike sold Doc a year later. I did not think ill of him one bit. I had plenty of time to get her back up there. Things change in peoples lives, sometimes even when they don't want them to. Charles you should be the kind of friend you would want to have.
On the other hand I had a guy help me get some blood in my kennel I needed after I lost my best. Later I had a male he wanted to breed to. I told him he could for free. When I sold the male, I told the new owners about the deal. They agreed to honor the agreement, and I expect them to.

[Chimney Rock Kennel]

WHY WOULD AFRIEND CHARGE ASTUD FEE ANY WAY?

I was thinking the same thing.

[tinymwoods]

I can see where a friend may charge a friend a stud fee or pick of the litter. We do the same thing. What I don't understand, is why the new owner would not let the guy breed the bitch. I would ask for a negative bru. test, and say it was a one time try, but if I bought the male I would let him breed. What's the guy out for letting his dog have some fun? Money won't help near as much as the good reputation and possible friendship that could come from this. People, there is more than money to life, and to beagling.

[AMANDA & RUSTY LYONS]

I agree with you 100 percent!

[Danny King]

my buddies i tell them to buy a case of Budweiser and set back and wait for the job to be done i wont charge them a thing when i sell males i tell them i want free breeding and that goes even if they sell the dog

[DRamey]

Are you sure it wasn't family? Usually such crooked dealings are done by family members. I would question the credibility of anyone on this board who says there is a time limit to my money. It isn't milk and it doesn't go bad. Wonder what he bought with the money? He received the benefit of $150 and promised that there is no hurry, which isn't an issue anyway. You buy something, you pay for it, you get something for what you paid. Anything else is theft. Sounds like small claims court and publicize the name in the local paper in doing so to keep others from getting crooked by him. Has he flat refused to pay the money back?

[DoubleEagle]

I can see where a friend may charge a friend a stud fee or pick of the litter. We do the same thing. What I don't understand, is why the new owner would not let the guy breed the bitch. I would ask for a negative bru. test, and say it was a one time try, but if I bought the male I would let him breed. What's the guy out for letting his dog have some fun? Money won't help near as much as the good reputation and possible friendship that could come from this. People, there is more than money to life, and to beagling.

I was kinda thinking the same thing. Hell if nothing else it's free advertising if people like the pups thrown by that breeding. The 200 dollar stud fee only goes so far, the reputation you get is much more valuable.

Mike McCollough
Middletown, Indiana

[Keystone Kid]

Recently a so-called buddy of mine sold a dog that I had paid $150.00 stud fee to breed to my female. Since the female didn't take, he told me I could try again--not to get in any hurry, because the dog would die there. Well, first of all, I heard from someone else that he had sold the dog--he didn't even tell me. When I called him, he said the guy he sold it to would honor the stud, so I called that guy. Well, he will not honor the stud--he said that was between me and my "buddy." Well, I just got off the phone with my "buddy", after telling him the situation he said that I could breed to something else he had. He doesn't have anything else I want to breed to. He will not return my $150.00 stud fee or pay the guy he sold the dog to to breed to my female. It's been about a year since the breeding failed. Am I being unreasonable? Has anyone else ever been in this situation?

You "can't make" a liar honest. He lied to you in the beginning by saying, “not to get in any hurry, because the dog would die there”. Well, that was a lie. So don’t think he’s going to change. This man probably got good money for the male he sold. By selling the male he “put a price on his sole”.

Secondly, I hear some on this post mention “let it go if he’s a friend”. If you guys on this board have friends like this you must be “real desperate”. I don’t have and will not have friends that do business in this way. I’m sure you’ve heard the saying “birds of a feather flock together”.

[Hatfield]

You ever heard the expression, there are two cheeks to every ass?

I think the accused was foolish to speak in definites, but to say he was a liar because he said a dog would die there and a year later sell it. I also think you are being overly dramatic to bring in him pricing the bottom of his shoes! LOL

I would like to know how the guys on here would have handled this situation if they had bought the dog. Someone start a poll. Where is Will Mason?