fast beagles

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

I'm not stating my views on a few turbo bred hounds, I've had turbo hounds from many different crosses, there are some that are harder to break than other,s ,I currently have a few turbo hounds that are doing good and some that are not, as for culling the hard ones, well I got to much into them to say thats it, Iposted my views on here, this being a open forum, we all are intittled to our views, I will respect your view's. thanks.

I was told by several ol turbo could get a deer thru the country . It to this day amazes me how many dogs are out there
out of turbo. Some great some not , i have spoken several times to don about this and i suppose one of the better breedings with turbo was ace in the hole stuff.The flaw i have seen or noticed is once you have the BIG THING to bred to too, as the pockets fill with cash the reputation of the stud drops tremendously.Every one wants some of the super studs and bring dogs
from every corner.I have talked to several people in the last few years most say 70% were pretty nice and knowledgable houndsmen. The other 30% were lets just say Blooming Idiots with little to no knowledge of hounds all they know is once they bred there piece of crap to superstud at a 1 year old they should win at any cost and the stud sucks if it dont happen.
I have seen some nice turbo dogs one of them being the bevo dog Wizz owns. Good and bad in all boys

[CHAD CAMPBELL]

Big Rufus,I can read just fine,thanks for asking.The thing is what your saying just doesn't add up.You say your not on here bashing anything but all you have to say about Turbo dogs is that their all deer runners,kennel fighters,hard headed junk dogs that are almost impossible to break,no matter who the Turbo sire is.Then you say the only thing good about Turbo bred dogs is that when crossed with right female they throw decent hunt.You have every right to your opinion and that's fine but to say your intent wasn't just to slam Turbo dogs is BS. In the post you deleted because you wanted to ''keep it clean'' and just call every Turbo dog you have seen aggressive,deer running,junk and not tell everyone how you really feel about Turbo dogs,you said they were slow and couldn't understand why they were being mentioned so much on a post about fast beagles.The reason that is,you hardly ever see a true Turbo bred hound with any thing less than upper med speed.You then go on to say you have owned 21 turbo hounds of whitch all were the same,and the five you have can't be broke and act like their on crack? And for common sence being knowledge,you are right on that,but who in their right mind has to go thru 21 junk hounds of any breeding to find out that they aren't what they like and continue's to feed five year old trash running,crack headed dogs that are still learning how to run a rabbit?That makes zero sence.I like dogs and own dogs out of diffirent lines other than Turbo but few lines have accomplished what Turbo sons and grandson's have.

[xdawg2]

I was told by several ol turbo could get a deer thru the country . It to this day amazes me how many dogs are out there
out of turbo. Some great some not , i have spoken several times to don about this and i suppose one of the better breedings with turbo was ace in the hole stuff.The flaw i have seen or noticed is once you have the BIG THING to bred to too, as the pockets fill with cash the reputation of the stud drops tremendously.Every one wants some of the super studs and bring dogs
from every corner.I have talked to several people in the last few years most say 70% were pretty nice and knowledgable houndsmen. The other 30% were lets just say Blooming Idiots with little to no knowledge of hounds all they know is once they bred there piece of crap to superstud at a 1 year old they should win at any cost and the stud sucks if it dont happen.
I have seen some nice turbo dogs one of them being the bevo dog Wizz owns. Good and bad in all boys

Brother Jimmy has broke the bread.... Listen to Jimmy...

-Jack

[SilverZuk]

Also, I am talking about dogs directly out of Turbo, not 2nd generation.
Out of the second generation pups I have seen (not that many), none I would note as exceptional.
I hear there are some good ones out there (hear a lot about Reggie pups), but haven't seen enough to make an opinion.

I don't own any dogs that are bred to Turbo (actually very little Branko period).
I like a different style dog, and am looking for a little less speed and more line control, while keeping the exceptional hunt.
I haven't seen that type dogs yet. (I think I am looking for the millionaire house wife that loves to hunt, fish, and clean, cut, cook deer and other critters - She doesn't exist neither does the type dog I am looking for)

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

Also, I am talking about dogs directly out of Turbo, not 2nd generation.
Out of the second generation pups I have seen (not that many), none I would note as exceptional.
I hear there are some good ones out there (hear a lot about Reggie pups), but haven't seen enough to make an opinion.

I don't own any dogs that are bred to Turbo (actually very little Branko period).
I like a different style dog, and am looking for a little less speed and more line control, while keeping the exceptional hunt.
I haven't seen that type dogs yet. (I think I am looking for the millionaire house wife that loves to hunt, fish, and clean, cut, cook deer and other critters - She doesn't exist neither does the type dog I am looking for)

Zuk,
Its too bad you never got the chance to see Buzzsaw run he was the complete dog with extreme hunt and never ending bottom. Thru it to his offspring as well if there was a better hound , i can not recall seeing him, He didnt fly but sure could fill comfortable in the middle of the pack. As he walked thru the check........................................ Sorry to take away the turbo topic but i didnt think anyone killed turbo dogs i thought they bronzed them and keep them on the mantle too look at.

[SilverZuk]

There are a lot of breeds of dogs that would probably be better off bronzed on a mantle.
We are all proud of our dogs, and to hear us talk we all have the best.
A lot of it is what you like and in some cases what we don't know.

I am down to two, which one is bred.
One is a cull I'll feed until she dies, the other is OK but I really had to wrestle with the question is she worth breeding.
Sometimes she looks like a million dollars and other times she probably isn't worth the powder and lead it would take to cull her
I hope that her offspring have her, and the stud's, strong points, and not their faults.
Probably be a bunch of culls I'll try to pass off as rabbit dogs come fall

[briarshakersdaddy]

I have 1female dog from Michigan with all the old blood [Meachums, Townlines, Cassidy's, Snapps]. 1female from Vermont with 2 wins and places in Large Pack [ Northway, Branko, Grannpy, Mountianeer ,Briarpatch blood ] My Primetime x Turbo Male runs as clean of a track , Hunts harder, Handles better, jumps more rabbits and is faster does not run off game and will retrieve a dead rabbit. The 2 females are excelent rabbit dogs. In some ways better than the male [little closter check area]but in someways he is better than them[ blows out of a check hard and more hunt]. Have 2 pups out of him and a double breed Lake Ogemaw Casey female that acts real good. What I am after is putting a little more foot and hunt in pups out of my females with out losing the line control that the male and females both have. Also have a female on lone [Primetime x Smith's Bonnie Lou [Super dog x branko] To breed to him. Love a dog that can move a rabbit hard and do it right regardless of his speed. If they dont out run there nose dont much matter if they are a 7 or a 9 on speed. If there speed gets them in trouble when they get the front [ can't handle the track]or they have to cut and swarp to get the front dont want them. Like um clean and fast. I buy the feed and I like them all that matters.

[wildhare2]

We bred a Lumberjack X Ladybird bitch to Reggie and got a whole litter of nice hounds. I know Kevin Monroe had a female that he said was the best young dog he's ever owned. Sadly it got hit by a car. So we got a male to him out of that same litter and it just placed NBQ at West Virgina at a derby. We are going to go to Jackson derby with our 2. Both are extremely fast and hard hitting. Neither has ran a deer and I hope they don't get suckered in.

As far as what ya'll are talking about in Turbo. It is a known fact Turbo ran a deer or 2 or 10, but he would run the furr off a rabbit. We have a male here that we just finished in AKC this past year out of Turbo and Iris. He was a deer runner at one time also. He has a ton of hunt , brains, nose, and is decent with his foot. He can get out footed in open country, but is tight to a line. This male is also a ukc HBCH, GRCH, almost a ch in pp and Arha Lp.

[hunter31]

boy it seems to me that the hard hitting fast dogs seeem to have the most hunt and the conservative med dogs don't hunt as hard. I know with my 3 dogs 2 are Big meadows and they hunt like crazy and can really run a rabbit, the other one is directly out of run em over tank and runs med speed but does not hunt as hard as the other two. the tank female really has nice line control but cant keep up with the other 2.
Hunter

[Larry G]

There are a lot of breeds of dogs that would probably be better off bronzed on a mantle.
We are all proud of our dogs, and to hear us talk we all have the best.
A lot of it is what you like and in some cases what we don't know.

I am down to two, which one is bred.
One is a cull I'll feed until she dies, the other is OK but I really had to wrestle with the question is she worth breeding.
Sometimes she looks like a million dollars and other times she probably isn't worth the powder and lead it would take to cull her
I hope that her offspring have her, and the stud's, strong points, and not their faults.
Probably be a bunch of culls I'll try to pass off as rabbit dogs come fall

Hey Zuk did you ever go see the dual quality type dogs you were talking about run a rabbit? What did you breed to?

A fella I know bought up a bunch of them skeeters, and I keep pestering him to go run em so I can see what they will do. Buzzsaw male, Golden Musket male, some other hare hound stuff... he won't do it and they ain't been out of the lot in years (you know who you are). I bought some myself that just touched the ground in the high spots. All but one are gone and you can get him if you want him (IFC Tughill Buddy Black X Striker bitch) This gent runs a lot, but he runs Bramlett. As Joe Wingate says, there is a difference in fast, and just plain crazy. Right Joe, but a lot of people are too dumb to see the difference.

[DaManBeagles]

I can not believe that a smooth line control hound has not been mentioned.
This is not a drag race the rabbit turns and back tracks and plays all kind of tricks.
The smooth track dog will dominate more times than not here in Indiana


DaManBeagles
Joel and Joe Roseberry
Terre Haute In.

[danny vansickle]

Also, I am talking about dogs directly out of Turbo, not 2nd generation.
Out of the second generation pups I have seen (not that many), none I would note as exceptional.
I hear there are some good ones out there (hear a lot about Reggie pups

well.ya need to come to ohio and northern ky,hit a trial or two,there are some real nice young 2 to 4 yr old turbo grandpups makin noise around here,these are just a few off the top of my head that i was impressed by.........

lpgrrch poor boys hank....by sugar run shank
sugar run rollin thunder.....sugar run shank
sugar run triple x.......turbo by turbo
pee wees prop.......blueman
mcdavids blueboy......blueman
double ds roughshod outlaw........blueman
will(james blevins,champ at 20 months)........jasper
kleins no mercy mic.........jasper
big hollow willie.......jasper
ohio reggie....reggie
swickert hills blue cookie.......reggie
reggies magic pebbles.....reggie
swickert hill cosmo.......reggie and blue iris(roy noe has one out of this cross that is a bad sob)
swickert hills summertime.......reggie
swickert hills fed ex,swickert hills willie........reggie x awful bawlin hoser
lnl ol red........reggie
and a lil cull named jessies blue turbo

i know i am forgettin a bunch,but i think the turbo bloodline is by far one of the best out there as far as trial dogs go,jmho

[rabbitearl]

The best pack of dogs that I ve ever seen and I have seen alot.Were it med,fast,or slow Is the one that a feller is happy with what hes got.I ve seen men come and run and run that rabbit like they were tie to it and next week have a different pack of dogs.And then a man can come and run one a 100 yards and be happy with what he got.Were it fast med slow big name dogs or grade dogs some people can not be happy no matter what kind of beagle they got.When you start to go out and run dogs and judge the dogs ever time you see them then you take the fun out,because if you look at him long enoth you will find something wroung. Just go out and have some fun.

[chapkosbeagles]

all i have to say is TURBO IS BRANKO BREEDING SO WHY CALL IT TURBO IT IS BRANKO EVERY ONE KNOW BRANKO IS A LITTLE TRASHY BUT IF BROKE THEY CAN BE GREAT LEVAL HEADED DOGS THAT CAN REALLY BURN A RABBIT EVERY LINE HAS A FAST ONE IN IT SOME WHERE

[danny vansickle]

all i have to say is TURBO IS BRANKO BREEDING SO WHY CALL IT TURBO IT IS BRANKO

dogs out of turbo,dogs outta jackpot,and dogs outta jumberjack have different caricteristics and styles,so,at some point,you have to disignate what line it is,i have also seen branko fanatics say if it aint bred by branko himself,it aint branko,so,with that being said,shure,it all goes back to branko,i guess if ya wanna be technical,we can call such dogs outta turbo lines and primetime,branko,but why????????

at some point,it aint branko anymore,ya can look at just about any dog and there is a lil branko in it somewhere,so,why should they get credit when ya have too look three generations back to find the branko name????????