breeding female

[Bev]

Bill, one had nothing to do with the other. If you had called Leah "holier than thou" I'd have been on your tail, too.

Yeah, I get a little worked up when Assumptions and holyer than thou do gooders start preaching to the choir. A simple pm to goatman would have dispelled all your fears and worrys. Insted you make him out to be a puppy miller for proffet.
You may think I got worked up for nothing but think how you made goatman feel and what you got everyone to thinking about him after what was said.

This response was directed to Leah. Sorry, but she's right. He got worked up for nothing. Beagled1, TC, and I all thought the same thing, but we weren't rude to goatman. We gave him answers and tried to give him positive guidance. Patch jumped in there, made his own ASSumptions, and told someone or everyone to get over themselves. Then he made it personal. Everyone was fine until then.

[mtneerbp]

ps...one of the young men at the after school youth meeting was saved tonight so you can't make me mad... ...so common girls, let me have it... [/quote]

Tell that young man CONGRATS this is way more important than bickering over who is a true breeder and who is not

[goatman]

ok enough already im sorry to have started all this but i though this site was made to ask questions as a matter of fact it said so on the front page at top as far as knowing everything about breeding a dog before you start ive only had 2 litters of pups and they were accidents from where i wrecked my 18 wheeler i was hit head on but anyway was on cruches and feeding my dogs in their offground pens 3 foot off ground that get washed out every other day the female got by me when i opened the door to feed her and my fiest caught her before i could ( on cruches) most of my dogs were bought and i went and stayed and hunted with for 3 or more days and im not in it for money so i dont worry about knowing the gestion period just wanted one darn litter to share with my hunting family and friends oh by the way i kept all the cross breed pup from the accidental breeding they werent sold, knocked in the head or thrown out at the trash dump or carried to the pound i spend about 50 dollars a week in feeding 80 yr in rabies shots and worming never kept up with price but my dogs are worm free and never lost one to parvo total 13 beagles 2 bluetick coon dogs and one yard dog and if any of you are dog whispers please come ask mine if they want to live any where else i would like to know well the best to ALL of you this is not a flame to anyone just though i would go into detail so not to start anything else luv you all

[goatman]

oh by the way you can see some of my hunting trophy on my space look for smiths millpond country boy
yall take care

[Bev]

and if any of you are dog whispers please come ask mine if they want to live any where else

LOL. This is good.

[Pike Ridge Beagles]

goatman,
I edited me earlier post to add the hassles of winter (cold weather) litters but if you live down south this is less of an issue. If you live in cold climate, I would suggest having them born no later than September. They will still be pups when Christmas rolls around (approx. 4 months old and be all up to date on their shots and worm free). I just weened a "cold weather" litter and it is a lot of work. Especially if it is a large litter....stressful. I kept them indoors for a little over 4 weeks (10 pups and mom).

Good luck to you,

Ed

[Ark]

Im still trying to figure out why it should be anybody elses business when or why someone breeds their dog.

[Bev]

He posted a question to the board. Are we supposed to ignore it because it's none of our business? LOL. This is a discussion board. People will give their opinions. Not everyone will like all opinions. If you shut the opinions down then the cries of excessive censorship start in.

[Ark]

I must have read the question wrong and if so I apologize.

I thought he wanted to know when to breed his dog to have puppies in time for Christmas, not whether or not he should breed his dog in time to have puppies for Christmas.

[Pike Ridge Beagles]

Im still trying to figure out why it should be anybody elses business when or why someone breeds their dog.

If ANYONE doesn't want their businness exposed then don't post on THE WORLD WIDE WEB!
This is a big boys (and girls) game and if you don't have thick skin then remain in the background. For me, I could care less what the flamers think or post behind me. I welcome those who have an axe to grind.
btw, SR Patch was being an ass and to come on here to talk about some kid being saved after calling others out is ridiculous. I am no saint and don't claim to be but I do believe in Christ.
JMHO

Ed

[S.R.Patch]

Hi Ed,
Did ja get your post edited to read the way you wanted it...
About the young man being saved, it was a joyous event and if mentioning it got you to thinking about your eternal soul, well that alone was worth it...
God bless an keep you...

Bev, you've stumbled all around this and it's hardly worth keeping alive but, "do gooders" is plural, not singular. I have no "bug" infestation, the notion has just been another wrong assumption of yours for a long time now. The green your seeing is the envy in your own eyes and because I don't have it the same as you, you think I must be jealous of it.
You bring up the "censorship", that must have been another one that got to you.
I have no hard feelings, but I do feel bad for goatman because even after showing everyone wrong about him, not one apologized to him...

[S.R.Patch]

double clicked...sorry

[Pike Ridge Beagles]

Hi Ed,
Did ja get your post edited to read the way you wanted it...
About the young man being saved, it was a joyous event and if mentioning it got you to thinking about your eternal soul, well that alone was worth it...
God bless an keep you...

Thanks Patch about the "soul" stuff. I edited my post to add about winter breeding, under Edit. My original sentence was left unchanged. I just went through a winter breeding and it is much work and stressful when compounded with all the other things in life...wife, kids, job, etc. I edited my original post because I really had nothing else to offer and did not wish to post again on this thread but as I continued to read on I became a little irratated. My bad. I apologize.
I must admit, I have to agree with the others who were a little miffed by goatman's original post. Seemed a little unclear but since he has done a great job explaining his intent which is a noble thing. I won't apologize to goatman because I never insulted him with my original reply and I don't usually make it a habit to insult someone I really know nothing about.
Honestly, I think you are being a little cross towards Windkist and I have seen it reflected in more than one post.
For the record, I have no problem with you or any others on this thread. Seems a little crazy to quibble over all this.
Godspeed,

Ed

[Ark]

If ANYONE doesn't want their businness exposed then don't post on THE WORLD WIDE WEB!

I didnt see a post where he exposed his "business".

I saw a post asking about the date pups would be whelped then I saw a bunch of folks get on him because he "might" be wanting to sell a few pups for Christmas.

And to that it aint nobody's business imo if he does or doesnt.

If you want to try and make it your business when someone else breeds a dog then youre a hypocrite if you dont get on here and get permission from everyone before you breed your own dog.

[Bev]

He exposed his business with the very first post. He was breeding for Christmas puppies, period, and wanted us to help him know when to breed to make that happen. If he had simply asked, "How long from breeding to weaning does it take" nobody would have thought twice.

And nobody "got on him." Anybody who's ever owned dogs knows what Christmas puppies "usually" means. Even still, he was given the breeding advice he asked for, (which meant he was given the benefit of the doubt) but then also cautioned that it's not always best to give or sell puppies at Christmas. There's nothing wrong with offering that advice and experience. Two or three others chimed in and agreed that it often backfires, and posted THEIR OWN policies regarding Christmas puppies. Nobody ragged him out. It wasn't until somebody got all haired up and jumped in the mix did goatman come out with the rest of the story.

We were glad to read that he wasn't breeding just to sell Christmas puppies. And, wether you think so or not, it IS our business...as beaglers and stewards of the breed to discourage people from breeding just for profit's sake. Especially when someone gets on here and gives a very misleading post, no offense to goatman. The long and short of it is, the fight was never between goatman and anyone else. It's pretty obvious where the sore spot is.