GETTING QUALIFIED FOR THE WORLD HUNT

kentucky mobster 08 · Post by **kentucky mobster 08** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:11 pm

should the arha do away with getting a dog qualified for the world hunt?

checkmate kennels · Post by **checkmate kennels** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:18 pm

I dont think so if a hound cant get in the top five in a club hunt there would be no reason for it to be at the world hunt.

kentucky mobster 08 · Post by **kentucky mobster 08** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:22 pm

how many time a judge cheat for his buddy to get his dog qualified.or should the arha make it harder to get qualified.

Chris Shoopman · Post by **Chris Shoopman** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:35 pm

i think it should be 1st...3rd in a hunt to get quil. that would cut a few dogs back so that you dont haft to be away from your home at the world hunt for a week

flash · Post by **flash** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:11 pm

how about two top five finishes from to different clubs and two different judges

that should settle any dispute that any hound has been "buddy judged" don't you think

it may also increase entries at hunts

kentucky mobster 08 · Post by **kentucky mobster 08** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:12 pm

flash thats a good idea.that would help stop some of the cheating.how do you stop people from packing their own judges to a different club.this happen alot to.

bradadkins · Post by **bradadkins** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:18 pm

I think it should be a win to qualify..but what do I know

rock crusher · Post by **rock crusher** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:45 pm

i've seen that 1st place dog on different day be a 8th place dog so stick to the 5th place qualifing; let'em run the world. however,i would't waste my time or money going to the world if the dog didn't earn it fair and square

kentucky mobster 08 · Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:28 pm

my point is arha took the easy way out on the hoy,because of all the cheating going on and people crying over getting cheated.why not do the same to the world hunt?more cheating go on to get a dog qualified for world than the hoy ever thought about doing.how many time have you felt like you got cheated because someone in your cast wanted their dog QUALIFIED or heard of someone getting cheated.i've seen some very good dogs get cheated that should have went to the world and could have won two or three cast at the world.the owner of one dog got cheated so bad in jackson everyone in that cast got mad except the boy who won.this owner said that it would be his last field trail.why does all the top dogs run in akc mostly.because of cheating in the arha.not because of hoy,but because of cheating to get qualified and to champion a dog.

flash · Post by **flash** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:17 pm

hey mobster 10-4 on the jackson club I got beat in a 3 dog champ final that the winner never even barked or hunted with the other two hounds . I'll give you one guess who owned the dog. Back to the judge problem alot of clubs are starting to use a computer program to roll the dogs . One of my ideas is when someone enters a dog ask if they are planning to judge any at this hunt if so assign them a number and enter them in the computer as many people that are dog co-owners the computer can roll the judges . Unlike the present way of "buddy judging ......nope can't judge that cast ..... sorry can't do that cast ..... I can only judge cast 5 because my buddy is in that cast " .

flash · Post by **flash** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:40 pm

rock crusher you are absolutely right . I've been to the world hunt and seen these dogs that have been "buddy qualified " when they go out in a cast and get thrashed the first thing the handler says is I GOT CHEATED when his/her dog can't even smell a fart let a lone a rabbit track but it has a "5TH PLACE FINISH" if they don't deserve to be there don't take them .

kentucky mobster 08 · Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:06 am

the loop hole in that,the guy buddy name wont be on his papers so he can judge that cast.that idea is a good one,but wont work very well at a small club,because lack of judges and not that many dogs.the odds are in the cheater favor.

dogwhisperer · Post by **dogwhisperer** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:20 am

so basically your saying cheating only happens in the opens cause thats the only class that has to quailfy thats easy then no world hunt for the opens this is what the nkc is thinking when they read all the complaints botttom line is what nkc is doing when they hear a bunch of complaints they are doing away with the problem not fixing it but doing away with it and eventually there will be nothing left.so if everyone is that dissatisfied with the organization i suggest you take a look at all the other non cheating organizations jmop

kentucky mobster 08 · Post by **kentucky mobster 08** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:13 am

dogwhisperer you got a good point,about nkc doing away with the problem.that is the point im trying to make.nkc took an easy way out in hoy.nkc should had fix the problem along time ago.just like getting a dog qualified for the the world.flash had a real good idea 2 top 5 finish at 2 different clubs.send the watch dog committee to the clubs who are getting bad for showing favoritism and getting lots complaints about.you cant tell me that the way some people get their dogs quailified for world is right and dont needs to be address.im a arha member i got the right to say what wrong with it.if the nkc dont like it they can take their membership put it were the sun dont shine.i have talk to lots people who was member of arha,but left because of cheating.if they do go to a hunt its a big five hunt they wont go to club hunt.we need to try to get nkc to fix the problem not to do away with.so we can get these member back.

bennetdr · Post by **bennetdr** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:50 am

flash wrote:hey mobster 10-4 on the jackson club I got beat in a 3 dog champ final that the winner never even barked or hunted with the other two hounds . I'll give you one guess who owned the dog. Back to the judge problem alot of clubs are starting to use a computer program to roll the dogs . One of my ideas is when someone enters a dog ask if they are planning to judge any at this hunt if so assign them a number and enter them in the computer as many people that are dog co-owners the computer can roll the judges . Unlike the present way of "buddy judging ......nope can't judge that cast ..... sorry can't do that cast ..... I can only judge cast 5 because my buddy is in that cast " .

Boy some one really cheated there was only 10 champ at the hunt sat 01/05/08 how did you get three dogs in the champ cast