INDIANA HUNT

[Ronnyg]

$80? That is cheaper than I thought.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

IT'S THE SAME OLD STORY THERE ALWAY'S HAS TO BE ONE .

PINE MT BEAGLES

[Ronnyg]

IT'S THE SAME OLD STORY THERE ALWAY'S HAS TO BE ONE .

PINE MT BEAGLES

A story? Sweet I love a good story.....just don't make it scary cause I'll have nightmares and wet the bed.

[warddog]

I think TC is probably onto something with his post as I live in the middle of mine country and not far from the public state run wildlife areas. I can tell you that there is adjacent land that is privately owned AND a lot of the mine properties do NOT allow hunting of any kind on them. If hunters come from out of state and abide by the laws of this state then I say welcome folks. I don't hunt the state properties and only have done so a handfull of times as I bought some land and belong to a hunting lease as well. I'll tell you from the conversations at our meetings the hunting club members have thrown off more resident hunters trespassing than non-resident. I'll also say that the resident trespassers are pretty slick as they will park in state ground parking areas or adjacent private property and either ATV or walk onto the club lease property. That really pi$$es off the club members as they all decided that in order to enjoy hunting they were going to have to spend some money to lease property exclusively for that reason as the state properties are loaded with hunters and lack of game. Years ago we hunted Hillenbrand and Minnehaha several times without jumping a single rabbit and quit hunting. We were invited to join this hunting lease and paid the money to do what we like to do. This may be America but the good ole days of turning you and or your hounds loose anywhere you see fit are GONE. I saw several years ago the old hunting properties that my dad and I used to hunt built up in shopping malls, apartment complexes, housing divisions and just plain private houses and I stopped coon hunting for the very reason that I had no control over what property my dogs went onto. After several episodes with ticked off landowners and learning the FACT that a game warden has NO legal authority to make a land owner allow you with or without the officer to go onto their property to retrieve your dog or downed game and seeing friends charged with trespassing having to pay pretty good fines, I came to the realization that I'd have to buy or lease ground to continue to enjoy the sport of any kind of hunting. I bought, I lease and I hunt no where else and I normally go to the field with NO hassels what so ever.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

WARDOG
IT IS GOING TO COME TO THAT EVERY WHERE KY, IS GETTING WORSE ALL THE TIME LAND OWNERS POSTING THEIR PROPERTY AND IT IS THEIR RIGHT AND I PERSONALLY DON'T BLAME THEM. RICH CORPPORATIONS LEASING ALL THE PROPERTY THEY CAN FOR A BUSINESS DEAL TO TAKE THEIR BUDDIES ON P.R. TRIPS TO SEAL A DEAL .I THINK HUNTING IS GOING TO BECOME IMPOSSABLE IN THE NOT TO DISTANT FUTURE ..BUT ALL THIS DOES NOT GIVE ANYONE THE RIGHT TO CUT SOME ONE'S TIRES.I WOULD REALLY BE UP SET IF I CAME UP ON SOME ONE CUTTING MY TIRES .

PINE MT BEAGLES

[checkmate kennels]

As far as the coal company shutting down the mines it is slowly happening it has little to do with where people are from but what they do when they get here i have said at a lot of our trails and in private conversations to please park on the gravel roads and walk into the fields and DO NOT drive on the dirt roads because these little paths were not made by the coal company but by lazy idiots who took it upon themselves to put a road where the coal company decided to plant some grass for looks and the wildlife and dont tell me that you dont do it because i now some of you and have seen it.

[MasonsBeagles]

The coal companies getting mad for people leaving the gravel road ways would have to do more about the teenagers and young adults taking those Mudder Trucks everywhere and tearing up the place. I was down there about 3 yrs ago and there was a convoy of about 10 of them come thru one of the places I run. Several got hung up in a mud hole and they hooked to them and they tore that area to peices.

I only use the designated roads. At least I think I do...

[warddog]

I'll agree with Masonbeagles post as well as the property we lease has an old gravel road running through it that has NOT been maintained for numerous years. It has very little gravel and mostly mud but if your careful and stay to the center it's very travelable. Every time it rains the STUPID mudder truckers get on the road and tear it to pieces. Last year they must have buried one of those mudder truckers as they put a hole in the road that you could look down and see a burning fire. Club members had to ahul very large bolders to help fill in the canyon they put into the road. I'll also agree that slashing tires is as STUPID as these Mudder truckers but when I got hung up in the hole they left I was mad enough to do more than call them Mudder Truckers.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

THE STRIP MINES AROUND HERE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM TRUCKS AND ATV'S TEARING UP THE GRASS, THEN THEY HAVE TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR AND GO AND DO THE RECLIMATION OVER AGAIN SEW GRASS FILL IN DITCHES AND TURN THE WATER,,,, I DON'T BLAME THEM LIKE I SAID A FEW CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR A US ALL.I MY SELF STAY ON THE ROADS WE GET THE BLAME ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!
PINE MT BEAGLES

[S.R.Patch]

We all have to become proactive if we wish to keep our hunting. The only thing i've heard about the mines was, cutting up the sod and dumping trash. We were down on ole ben few years ago and while we were hunting we saw a pickup pull in and throw out 4 bags of trash, well, it's only 50cents a bag to dispose of it so we threw it in the back of the truck when we left and hauled it to the dump, I didn't want to loose a good running spot to $2.00, but now it's gone anyway.
The clubs beg and borrow to have good cast sites to take the trials but this too is abused. When good numbers of rabits are found to run, the trialers return in hunting season to hunt them with a gun. Some of these areas are private grounds and when the owner finds hunters on the grounds without asking permission, he blames it on the beagle club bring in strangers and now they've seen fit to take over his ground, this makes the beagle club in a bad light with the owner and if the use of the ground is not lost, they are sorely frowned upon and the farmer talks to other farmers about the troubles brought upon him from opening his gates to beaglers...
I've always been against leasing and throwing locals off, I've had it done to me and once I tasted that bitter pill, it seemed to seperate me from the world I used to know. One day I may have no place to hunt and my usefulness and these hounds will be over and we will sit on the sugar ridge and only dream of the happy times we had. My only hope is the Lord will come take us quick...

[warddog]

I never was much on paying for ground to hunt (leasing) either but when I had no place to hunt other than the public land as I described in a previous post, I did sit on the sidelines with NO dogs what-so-ever. We got more into deer hunting but I longed for the cry of the hounds in hot pursuit. I would sit out at night in the summer and listen to the neighbors hounds running or treed. When they would come to my door and say hey we treed one back on you can we go to our dogs and I'd say yep if you don't mind me tagging along to the tree. We'd get in there and they'd snap them up to go but I'd say guys pop that coon outta there for them young dogs. So when my cousin and I were invited to join the hunting club and lease 1200 acres with a limited number of members I jumped on it to have a place to hunt without worrying about if we had to draw a number to get in. With the limited number of members it is NOT cheap but like the ole saying goes you get what you pay for and if I'M paying for it I expect certain things but if not then I expect exactly what I got on the public properties I've been on...not much.

[Greensprings Kennel]

It really is too bad one bad apple can spoil the whole barrel, weather it's one irresponsible hunter who knowingly tresspasses, or some jackass cutting someone else's tires.
I rabbit hunt in 2-3 different states, and never had a problem....we should all be a little more conservation-minded when we see people hunting irresponsibly or using our natural resources recklessly and tell them about it..(in a tactful manner)..Sometimes it's our fellow hunters that are own worst enemies..!

[SMALL TOWN]

By the way is there not any wabbits in KY. LMAO!!!!! If not is that why you guys come to IN to hunt and run dogs or is it we have better running up here. LMAO!!!!!! I dont think any of us houndsmen would care about you guys coming up here to run and hunt, as long as it was being done the legal way.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

I THINK MOST OF THE HUNTERS FROM KY ARE AS LEGAL AS ANY ONE ELSE AND JUST AS GOOD HOUNDSMEN AS THE LOCAL GUY'S FROM INDIANA. I HAVE HUNTED UP THERE -2-TIMES AND IT IS GOOD RUNNING,WE USED TO HAVE BETTER RUNNING UNTIL PEOPLE MESSED IT UP, SOUNDS LIKE IT IS YOUR TURN ----SMALLTOWN --LMAO I MOSTLY GO FOR A CHANGE OF PACE, BUT I CAN SE AN A$$ ANYWHERE.I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A FEW BUNNY'S LEFT IN KY !!!!!!!!!HEY GOOD LUCK AND
KEEP'EM RUNNING
PINE MT BEAGLES

[SMALL TOWN]

Well, I didn't call any names out but if you want to that is fine. Yes, the running is good up here. It is going to be good running here until people mess it up. That includes everyone and All 50 States. Not just someones name. Small Town