how would you score it?

[warddog]

Hey Danny, wasn't that frog FlyBoy spoke about up there FARTING under the water too? I personally like reading these how would you score this regardless of who post it as long as it don't get into a big free for all. I've never trialed beagles and it gives me the opportunity to look at different trial situations and try to figure out how I would answer them. Sure do very often see numerous answers to a scenerio being judged under a single set of rules.

[DRamey]

I was in a similar situation once on a check. A rabbit ran down a dusty road and hopped off the road into a rockpile about 5 feet off the road. One hound came down the road, checking the edge until he found where the rabbit left the road. He barked one bark in the 5 feet but showed me all I needed to see. I gave him a check. In the hunt dexcribed above, if I could see the hound's mouth breaking I would have given strike/jump. I have scored a lot of treeing contests and had to watch the hound's mouth so that I believe that I could tell if he was opening even if I didn't hear it. My hearing is not good anyway so I am learning to look more as time goes on. Runnemhard's use of the rules isn't quite what the scenario described as I understand it. Unless I'm mistaken (and I am, quite often) the rule used there was about before the rabbit was up and not after, and the scenario Danny described was concerning giving mouth after the rabbit was up. Now having said that, according to the same rule,if a hound was running silent and another hound was behind giving mouth, I would score the hound giving mouth unless the other opened up somewhere. Judging is by definiton making judgment calls. We are not scorekeepers, but judges. In my judgment, a silent hound is a faulty hound. We are promoting gundogs. If a hound jumps a rabbit and runs silently and won't open, then he deserves no score. This isn't the situation described, so the judge must be on his toes. If he were closer, there would not be an issue, but that is sometimes impossible, esp. with a 5-dog cast that isn't hunting together. I always try to stay closest to either 1)the most hounds that are together (reducing the odds of missing something) or 2)the hound that seems to be working game or just working the hardest(if all hounds are scattered everywhere) To those who are not judges (but should be, some are not able, I understand), does this sound easy? Add to that, it doesn't matter what the handlers say, it is "inadmissible evidence."

[SilverZuk]

I agree with jump strike as long as he was the only dog on the rabbit.

[danny vansickle]

I agree with jump strike as long as he was the only dog on the rabbit.

the dog was bandit,anoyone that has seen bandit go knows if bandit is runnin 20 feet behind a huge rabbit lookin right at it in an open cut feild,he is barkin.the strike was open,a handler said,"look,there he goes",everyone looked over,and we all saw bandit sight chasing the rabbit across the open field,like the post says,there was so much noise,we could not hear the barks,just a couple of us heard one or two,but the judge and everyone else could see his mouth breakin super fast,so the judge scored jump strike,there was a lond discussion over it,but i believe he made the correct call,even if it was another persons dog,i would have to agree.