BULLIE BEAGLES

DRamey · Post by **DRamey** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:58 pm

Something else that you got me to thinking about, Danny. Since the pups can't be registered as anything, the sires and dams probably aren't anything more than half breed rescues from the pound anyway that look more bulldog than the other half, or more beagle, etc. . If so, they surely won't go to much expense with their health, as there is an unlimited supply to be had. I have considered getting my father-in-law a bulldog as a gift someday, as he had boxers most of his life but needs something a little less rowdy nowadays, but I won't go for a "bullie"!!!!!!!

danny vansickle · Post by **danny vansickle** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:46 pm

my bullies are full blooded and akc registered with champion bloodlines,my male is a grandson to milcoats titus,titus is the only dog to ever win the westmenster dog show two years in a row,titus has produced more champions than any other sire in history.

my bullies are top of the line.

i just acquired a female recently from kevin wilson in bowling green ky,he goes by wilson on this board,kevin definately knows his bullies,he bred this female out of his stock,she is awesome,he developed his stock from one of the other top lines,i assure you if you get a bulldog from me,they are nice and healthy and 100%bulldogs.

Windkist · Post by **Windkist** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:05 pm

These designer messes are really a shame! They end up in shelters when the owners are tired of them or can't handle them. Just look at http://www.petfinders.com The buying public sure is gullible!!!

Thanks to all who preserve our breeds as they are ;-)

Leah

B.Trull · Post by **B.Trull** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:21 am

Windkist wrote:These designer messes are really a shame! They end up in shelters when the owners are tired of them or can't handle them. Just look at http://www.petfinders.com The buying public sure is gullible!!!

Thanks to all who preserve our breeds as they are ;-)

Leah

As they are ????? For what ? Most dog breeds out there arent capable of any real work . Most all dogs in america are of pet quality, so a mutt can be a pet just as easily as a purebred dog. Look what has happended to the Rotts, Dobes and German Shepherd after americans got ahold of them. Puke

Lynn Perkins · Post by **Lynn Perkins** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:51 am

DRamey wrote:I wonder about what issues the female beagle has, trying to get that bulldog head through the birth canal. I know for a fact that is even an issue with beagle studs that have big heads.

Windkist · Post by **Windkist** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:22 am

B.Trull wrote:
Windkist wrote:These designer messes are really a shame! They end up in shelters when the owners are tired of them or can't handle them. Just look at http://www.petfinders.com The buying public sure is gullible!!!

Thanks to all who preserve our breeds as they are ;-)

Leah

As they are ????? For what ? Most dog breeds out there arent capable of any real work . Most all dogs in america are of pet quality, so a mutt can be a pet just as easily as a purebred dog. Look what has happended to the Rotts, Dobes and German Shepherd after americans got ahold of them. Puke

YES!! as they are. PUREBRED! I have no trouble with mutts and have owned a few but, those were accidents and not intentional matings with 2 breeds that have no business being bred together. Imagine the "beagle bullie" its got the shorter nose and breathing issues with all that beagle energy. Probably doesn't even know what to do with itself. Its unethical and in my personal opinon disgusting to purposely make these so called designer dogs. Its a fad and nothing more and adds greatly to the shelter populations which gets the AR nuts all up in arms and ultimately threathens our right to breed purebred dogs.

Leah

marr24 · Post by **marr24** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:05 am

HAS ANYONE SEEN THE NEW DESIGNER PUPPY,OR AS I CALL THEM,SPECIALTY BREEDS?

PEOPLE ARE BREEDING FEMALE BEAGLES TO ENGLISH BULLDOGS AND CALLING THEM BULLIE BEAGLES,THEY SELL FROM 500 TO 1000 BUCKS!!!!!!!!

Danny, I think it's interesting that you posted this. I just noticed you have a post in other hunting breeds of your own litter of "designer" dogs-or as you like to call them "specialty". The Bandog pups cross of a pit bull with a Dogge de Borduex. I must say it struck me as quite strange that you are pointing out that others are doing this for nothing more than money when it is quite obvious you are doing the same thing!! Are you breeding these so-called Bullie Beagles as well??

danny vansickle · Post by **danny vansickle** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:47 am

no,i don not breed beagles to bulldogs,and bandogs have been bred for years,since the late 60's

here is some info for ya,do you know how the english bulldog came about?

the english bulldog was developed in the late 1800's,by breeding the standard bulldog,wich is called ameicans now,to pugs,they made the bull dog pug cross then kept breeding them to make the english.

how do ya think they made the bull mastiff?by breeding bulldogs to the english mastiff.

min pins are dobes bred to chihaja's.

toy poodles are standard poodles to chihajia's.

pit bulls are bull terriers bred to bull dogs.

see,a lot of the top breeds originated as specialty breeds

i see nothing wrong with specialty breeds such as the bandog,the olde english blldogge,and ect.

i don't care about the people breeding bullie beagles.

i just figured people on the board would be interested in seeing them,i thought it was odd,so i posted it.

but as usual,anything i post,developes into a bashfest,hell,that is all people wanna do is bash people and argue.

Windkist · Post by **Windkist** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:01 pm

min pins are dobes bred to chihaja's.

toy poodles are standard poodles to chihajia's.

pit bulls are bull terriers bred to bull dogs.

see,a lot of the top breeds originated as specialty breeds

This is incorrect. Min Pins are a seperate breed entirely and in fact are older than the Doberman pincher. They oringinally were bred from perhaps the manchesters and some other crosses but, not the doberman and a chihuahua. Same with the mini poodles. They were selectively bred down from smaller stock. You just can't breed anything with a chi chi and get small...LOL

Most breeds did start out as crosses which over time became what they are today. The difference is that it was for a reason. Min pins were Ratters. The designer dog fad of today is nothing more than greed.

I know Danny that your original post was meant sarcastic ;-) Nobody with a GOOD line of dogs who cared about that breed would do such a thing.

interesting what happens when these Fads take over.

Leah

EagleBeagler · Post by **EagleBeagler** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:18 pm

cant we all just get along smile be happy

wvduece · Post by **wvduece** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:39 pm

min pins have no doberman in them they came from several terrier crosses n use to be used by the romans for guard dogs now that is what ive read in my min pin breeders hand book n the history of min pins i have had them for 14 years my last one died about 2 weeks ago great lil house dogs in my opinion most of mine were one man dogs jb

ironjawdawgs · Post by **ironjawdawgs** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:48 pm

I'm not saying good or bad about this topic. Who ever wants to do what ever they want to is totaly up to them and none of my bee's wax. I do want to say that my cousin has a english bulldog/beagle mix that his brother breed. While he was out running his AKC beagles he heard and watched this english bulldog/beagle mix(6 months old) along with his mutt terrior/beagle mix run rabbits around the wood behind his house. Kinda funny that these mutts can keep circling rabbits for more then 45 mins.
Elliott

danny vansickle · Post by **danny vansickle** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:58 pm

i may have heard wrong on them two,but i amright on the rest.

leah seems to have a level head unlike some others,why would i waste my time breedin bulldogs to beagles when i have female bulldogs to breed to and a ifc 2 miles from my house and nice males of my own in my kennel to breed my beagles to.

i did post it in sarcasm,but i did find it interesting,not that i would do it,but i found it odd.

as far as my bandog breeding,like i said,bandogs have been bred for years,there are bandog shows all over the country,they even have registries that recognize them.and it is just a matter of time before akc recognizes them,just like they did the american bulldog,it took forever,the only people that recognized them where ckc,nkc,ukc,and abda

go to http://www.buffdogs.com anyone that appriciates bullie bred dogs can see that bred right with the right program,bandogs are very impressive dogs,but that is just my opinion,everyone has one and is intitled to thier own,true?

olde english bulldogs are americans bred to english bulldogs,they are recognized by abda,ioebda,and ckc.

Windkist · Post by **Windkist** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:43 pm

EagleBeagler wrote:cant we all just get along smile be happy

I think we are for the most part. I enjoy these intelligent, debate type exchanges. Its really interesting to hear what others think.

Danny,

The Bandogs are interesting. What is the purpose of them (working, pulling, guard dogs?) It seems like these are being bred for a purpose and not for the fad of the day or $$$$. Is there a site to explain the history? My son wants an amstaff but, I say NO! I like them but, good lord we don't need no more! LOL

Thats what I despise is the ones who have no regard for the mess they are making but, just cashing in. Who cleans up this mess? They sell the cute puppies then when they are done with the adults they dump them in the pound. It makes reputable breeders look bad and fills the shelters with more dogs to re-home.

Leah

DRamey · Post by **DRamey** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:30 pm

Danny, I misspoke when I said that I wouldn't get my father-in-law a bullie. I meant a buggle, or whatever they call the mixes. I may contact you sometime for a real bulldog for him down the road.