dog not packing up

Wilson Creek Cody · Post by **Wilson Creek Cody** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:05 pm

i have an AKC registered female about a year and half old. I run her with my own dogs and she runs great. She fights for the front, picks up checks, and has a considerable amount of foot. But the second i put her in a pack with strange dogs she will either stay at my feet or she will wait till the other dogs jump a rabbit and then she will go off hunting by herself. i sent her to a training pen to run with nothin but strange dogs for two weeks and still nothing. Does anybody have any ideas on how i could get her to pack up. Will layin her out for a few weeks help?

Joeyman · Post by **Joeyman** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:13 pm

I would have to say that the your dog will never pack with strange dogs. I am in the same situation as you are in. I have a female 2 year old that will not pack up with strange dogs no matter what you do she will stay at your feet and to be honest it is embarrassing. But when she is running with her kennel mates there is no stopping her when she is locked on a rabbit. There is nothing you can do but keep trying or do like me and leave her home when it is time to run with others.

Wilson Creek Bill · Post by **Wilson Creek Bill** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:13 pm

Shoot her..Thats about all she's worth, a good plugged nickel.

Wilson Creek Cody · Post by **Wilson Creek Cody** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:51 pm

she does so good with my dogs i hate to give up on her or sell her. But about all i do is field trial and she is no good to me for that.. Bill your just mad cause browning is to soft to stay runnin.. he is always sick or hurt.. there is no need to be scared i wont run her with yall no more

Wilkerson Boys · Post by **Wilkerson Boys** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:14 pm

Tri-Tronics??? Don't let her go off and run by herself! Give her a buzz and put her tail in the box till next time and repeat. It's a start and maybe an end. Of what who knows.

Wayne

mud · Post by **mud** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:10 pm

I have had a few dogs in the past like you describe.I tried everything mentioned here and more no luck.My opinion is you will have to accept it.Either run her with your hounds or sell her to a guy who only runs by himself and keeps just a few dogs.

Wilson Creek Bill · Post by **Wilson Creek Bill** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:02 pm

Cody, you are such a comedian. So hilarious. We'll drop them anytime you want, and it will all be over but the

HatterasBob · Post by **HatterasBob** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:11 am

Sounds like to much solo time as a pup to me! I've seen dogs come around, but it may take a while.

randy37 · Post by **randy37** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:25 am

I am having this same problem right now,my hound was and is ran with other hounds still not having much luck with her staying in a race. Good luck with your hound and if you start to see her come around and run with other hounds, let us know what you did different to correct her.

HatterasBob · Post by **HatterasBob** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:29 am

Try tieing up your dog near the running pack so that the pack/rabbit runs near enough to possible even see the rabbit. Then let him off, if he comes out again put him back on the tie out.

Wilson Creek Dad · Post by **Wilson Creek Dad** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:37 am

I agree this sounds like to much solo time but this dog has never been soloed as far as I know. A little history on this dog: We sent her to a starting pen to get her started. When she was first getting going she would not quit hunting a warm track to go to the other dogs if they jumped a rabbit, even if it was close to her. We started picking her up and putting her in with the other dogs and she quickly figured out what was expected and got a lot better at honoring the other dogs. We were also running her occasionaly with strange dogs and she was doing okay but picked up the habit of backtracking from a dog one day and we had to start shocking her to fix that problem. We were reluctant to put her with strange dogs after that for a while but when we did we did not notice any problems until a few weeks ago when we took her to a trial and she totally ignored the other dogs in the cast and refused to honor them. Very frustrating as this dog seems to be progressing very nicely until this problem came up.

Wilson Creek Dad · Post by **Wilson Creek Dad** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:55 am

A couple of additional questions. This female will be 2 next month and we were hoping to do some breeding with her in the future but now not sure. Is this a type of problem that will likely be passed on to her pups? Sure don't want to put more hounds out with this problem. Also, I have heard that dogs change sometimes after having a litter so could that help her to mature and get past this problem?

gus · Post by **gus** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:16 pm

Your dog lacks conficence and is being intimidated by the strange surroundings/dogs. Try taking her to all the trials and not running her. Just let her hang out until she gets comfortable. I sold a male pup to a friend. Later he tried to trial him and he acted the same way when he first started trialing him. He is ok now.

Wilson Creek Cody · Post by **Wilson Creek Cody** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:44 pm

that is what dad told me to do.. i think i will try that.. i ran her with two strange dogs tonight and 4 of my own and she did real good

TallPaul · Post by **TallPaul** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:16 pm

I had a male that was similar. Only difference was, he would on occasion, go, if the rabbit was up. Wouldn't do any searching with other dogs. And there were other issues, but when he was with his kennel mates, he'd hunt and run his heart out. One thing that I had thought would have helped him, was kenneling him at different kennels, for a month or two. Also run the dog with a mixture of kennel mates and strange dogs, and gradually reduce the number of kennel mates, till eventually you're only running one kennel mate, with the dog, then to a point of all strange dogs. I never was able to do this, but thought it may work. I wouldn't bred a dog with this type of fault.
Paul