Trashproof?

[mike crabtree]

I had a guy tell me the other day that his dogs were born %90 trashproof.

I doubt there are many deer where he is from, because I am lucky to get %10 trashproof. Most of mine have been easy to break, but they all run a deer under the pressure of another dog hammering a deer.

What do you guys think?

[Roy Pasmore]

I agree with you . If you or lucky enough to have trash broke dogs to run with the problem becomes less A problem but its still there. Sooner or later they or exposed to A hot deer chase and you have to handle it.

[upshurbeagler]

There may be some out there, but I have been into beagles for close to 40 years and all the ones that I have seen have had to be broken from deer running. As you stated some are easy to break and some a little harder but given the opportunity any beagle just starting would take a deer if that was all it was exposed to.

[ycedy]

I have owned and seen dog that would not run a deer or other off game period. Chris of (Bayou City Beagles) and Walter Wall have some that are will not even bump the track I dont care how many dogs are running. I have some that are broke but it took wearing out lots of shoe soles and mr. ecollar. but I can take them and not worry about deer. I have found some blood line seem to run more deer than others and I won't call names. Of those bloodlines. I will only say what my late friend Mason would say" keepem in good company and where there are plenty of rabbits and you should not have problems." Years ago I could not afford an ecollar and there were less deer I had a pack of dogs that were straight until I added two more hounds that were great rabbit dogs but if it was a deer in the woods they were gone they would make it sound so good the other dogs would go to them. Two weeks later I'm driving 3 hours to pick up poor Trash runners. Well got rid of those 2 before they did any more damage to my pack. Thanks Cedric

[Bev]

I've been lucky enough to own 7 hounds that never ran deer and never wore a shock collar for it. They have been gunned and trialed in plenty of deer, and in cast where there were a deer riots, they just never ran them. One is dead now (Queenie) but the others are still around. One is soon to be 15 years old, one is 9 years old, one is 8 years old, three are 5 years old. None are what you would call closely related. The rest of my dogs had to be broken, and there were a couple that flat couldn't be broken.

[gus]

I have owned a couple of dogs that never ran anything but a rabbit. I bought a Sunkenland Sparky bitch once from Cliff Rankin when she was nine months old that never ran off game. I had some young dogs that would run a fox. She would go and check them out then return.

[jeff lee]

I raised a litter of four grade pups one went for a pet the female never has ran anything but a rabbit and she has been where the deer is thick and where outher dogs have been on hot and I mean looking at them hot deer races and has never even acted interested in deer and the outher two are males and they took the first deer they ever came on like they were born running them "they are broke now" but I sure don't know what made the difference. Go figure.

Jeff

[tommyg]

Mike I have 3 Hounds that have never ran off game,you have ran with 2 of them. The yound male Thunder won't run Deer even when another hound starts one but he may run a house cat,I know he hates them. I do belive theres "Trashproof" Hounds but they are few and far between.

[mike crabtree]

I didnt really make it clear he was talking about his breeding.

[JIMMIE ABSHIRE]

Running house cats arenot a fault

[kybriarbuster]

only if the dogs dont tree

[hillbilly]

hey mike what about elk.... does that count

i have had two dogs that were rabbit only from birth but the rest have been introduced to mr. tritronics and learned shockingly quick that if i run deer it hurts...... i don't think it is in the breeding mike. if you run your young dogs with deer dogs then you will have deer dogs. and if you run you young dog with rabbit dogs you will have rabbit dogs. that is just my experence......

[JIMMIE ABSHIRE]

What if you run young rabbit dogs with ol fox chasing deer dogs?

[Cottontail Chaser]

I have owned 3 trashproof hounds that would turn down both Deer and Fox, two have passed with age and I still have one here, she will not even run a housecat and to me she is worth her weight in gold for that. She has told on 4 races so far 2 Fox,1 cat,1 Deer..However there is only 2 dogs that I know that were naturally trash-proof from birth and never shocked off or broke off in any way , one was FC Reeder Run Asa who is off FC Bucks Branch Kalagha and the other is David's Spike off FC Cabin Fever Intimidator who is off FC Bucks Branch Kalagha...This goes against what I have heard about this line...I take my young dogs and put them on fresh Deer and when they show excitement and move the line I rip into them using a collar until they get back to the truck then praise them for coming back, after 3 sessions most will haul a** when they come across a Deer track and some will return after only one session but if any will still show excitement after 3 shockings then they are culled....I do this with one or two pups at a time so they can see that the smell is a bad experience for their buddies too... One guy put some deer urine on his farmers billy goats (with permission) feet and back and let the dogs in the pen and the billy goats chased and kicked them all over the place until the dogs were hiding and urinating on themselves in a corner and he says his dogs never run deer after that but sometimes it has worked so well that whenever the dogs run across a hot deer track they stop hunting and run back to the truck...

[Matt Wilson]

running a house cat will get you scratched in ukc