Straight legged beagles

coolbrze · Post by **coolbrze** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:37 am

What are straight legged beagles? Heard an old-timer mention them last week.

Chuck Terry · Post by **Chuck Terry** » Mon May 22, 2006 4:46 pm

I had a guy comment that my beagles were "straight legged". I told him I would not own any other kind. I quized him about the term. He said he picked it up from his dad and that it was a compliment. Best I could determine, the other type was the "crooked legged" variety that have almost a bassett hound look. I may get blasted for saying this but they seem most prevalent in the traditional brace lines of today.

RonG · Post by **RonG** » Mon May 22, 2006 11:40 pm

I've heard of bench legged beagles too.

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Mon May 22, 2006 11:46 pm

When I was a kid all the AKC beagles that I had saw looked like Mini Bassets. It wasnt until a few years ago I learned you could ave real beagles and AKC papers.

Alabama John · Post by **Alabama John** » Tue May 23, 2006 8:14 am

Dogs that have straight legs when walking naturally, especially in the back can run faster, even after a rabbit if their nose can handle it. Dogs whose back legs bend forward at the halfway joint toward the front typically run slower and the more the bend, the slower the dog.

Ever watch a woman track and field athlete walk or slow jog. Athletic dogs walk with the same spring and bouncy stiff gait.

WE call them straight legged as a goat!

Same with horses, ones with quick fast takeoff have a big gaston muscle, slower ones do not.
You can tell a lot about animals abilities by looking at their muscles and bone set.

Waccamaw Beagler · Post by **Waccamaw Beagler** » Wed May 24, 2006 8:50 am

Check out these pics, they're perfect examples of straight-legged beagles.
All these are fox beagles.

Outwest Hard Rock G - Owned by Joe Johnson - Loris, SC - Two sanctioned wins

Back Forty Hawkeye - owned by me - Loris, SC

Brand's Summerette - owned by me - Currently 5th in Atlantic Coast Beagle FHA 2006 Dam of the Year standings - One of only two females to have atleast one pup place in every hunt in 2006

1st - 44 Possum's Blaze (Crawford's Sampson X Rob's Blue Streak)
2nd - 8 Back Forty IceMan (FC Brand's Hawk X Black Creek Vanilla Ice Cream)
3rd - 2 Home Branch's Blaze (GFC William's Bacon X FC Pocataligo's Little Dreamer)
4th - 76 Back Forty Hawkeye - (FC Brand's Hawk X Brand's Summerette)
5th - 50 Outwest Hard Rock G - (GFC Outwest Kid Rock X Black Creek Whip Cream)

simplepaliving · Post by **simplepaliving** » Wed May 24, 2006 9:12 am

So do the breeders strive for the straight legs? Or is it a fault?

Waccamaw Beagler · Post by **Waccamaw Beagler** » Wed May 24, 2006 11:10 am

Yeah I breed for straight-legged, long, slender bodies. Built for speed.

Alabama John · Post by **Alabama John** » Wed May 24, 2006 12:01 pm

Woccamaw

That's what I'm talking about! Strainght legged.
What we breed for.

Would someone post a picture of a slower type dog to show the bend in the back legs.

SouthernBeagles · Post by **SouthernBeagles** » Wed May 24, 2006 12:15 pm

Straight legged beagles are correct! They are not supposed to have bowed or twisted out legs. I breed for correct legs and conformation but must admit don't always get it, I have not come close to the perfect dog but I am sure trying to breed for it, lol. It is just one of the things that is a part of my breeding program as well as ability and brains. If the dog doesn't have ALL THREE, he doesn't get used, period!
Imagine a long distance marathon runner. Now imagine his legs were bowed, or he was weak in the hips. He can still run and if he had a big enough heart might can finish the race but he will not be able to go the distance race after race year after year. His body just can't handle it and will break down on him.
Here are a few of my dogs with the exception of the first dog. They aint nothing fancy, just field beagles, but they are all straight legged beagles.
This male is Luci Van Little man. He is in every dog I have and is what my bloodline was built on.

This is Southern Eight Ball. He is a nice male, very straight and can run all day every day! He aint no show dog but he has a good enough conformation to get the job.

This is Southern Ellie Mae. She is a beauty! I will start compaigning her in the AKC SPO this fall. She is probably the most correct dog I own thanks to Chuck Terry.

Domestic Dispute is a pup out of Ellie Mae

Southern Sassafras is also an Ellie Mae pup. Littermate to Domestic Dispute

This is Southern Little Red Corvette.

Rico · Post by **Rico** » Wed May 24, 2006 9:54 pm

Well straight legs don't run the rabbit. I have TWO AKC FC's and one has them ole crooked legs the other don't . Guess which one out last the other. Both are beauuutifull. That there little man stuff has been a little slow for me.I sold or gave away most that were close to him.

Hondo · Post by **Hondo** » Thu May 25, 2006 10:23 am

Great looking dogs!

Rico: "straight legs don't run the rabbit". Maybe not but I have seen a lot of beagles that look more like a bassett hound than a beagle. They may run great but we should call them bassetts if they actually look more like a bassett than a beagle.

Cazadora · Post by **Cazadora** » Thu May 25, 2006 11:43 am

Rico wrote:Well straight legs don't run the rabbit.

I bet you if you ran those two against each other 7 days a week, 8 hours a day, and IF their ability is equal, the crooked leg dog will quit first if you don't hurt him first. He is not built for running even if his heart is in it.

Rico wrote:I have TWO AKC FC's and one has them ole crooked legs the other don't . Guess which one out last the other. Both are beauuutifull.

how old were these dogs when you finished them? Or did you BUY them finished? How many dogs in the class? How many trials did it take? How old are the dogs? Any dog can run for 4 hours a week, how many days a week or hours a week do you run these dogs? Anyone can buy a FC for the right amount of money but you don't breed one every day. If you bred two FC's, that is saying something for you. If you bought them.......

Rico wrote: That there little man stuff has been a little slow for me.I sold or gave away most that were close to him.

Little Man has been dead for a lot of years. Did you ever see this dog run? If not, how do you know if what you had was "close to him"?
A bloodline doesn't determine the speed of a dog, the breeders program does. I have seen medium speed branko's and have seen wind splitting Stubby dogs. Speed is easy to breed into a line, the hard part is slowing them down and cleaning them up.

Rico · Post by **Rico** » Thu May 25, 2006 5:02 pm

Owned a grand daughter of little man slowest dog I've had. But she had a good nose. Had a daughter of the female out of hillcreast bear and she was slow. Not trying to light a fire ,just my experince.FEED WHAT U LIKE.That crooked legged dog finish in under two years and dosen't quit as a matter of fact he gets stronger the longer the race. Not tryin to slight anybody but looks don't run the rabbit. Bring what you like I'll run with you anyday.I own 5 superb males ,stubby,buzz bomb,iron mike,DIAMOND II son ,and Blackjack bredding .Every body likes a pretty dog just like a pretty woman but what counts is whats the frying pan. I BRED FOR A RABBIT DOG NOT JUST A STRAGHT LEG IF I JUST WANTED THAT I'D BUY A SHOW DOG.

gus · Post by **gus** » Thu May 25, 2006 6:50 pm

I suspect that if you took your crooked leg dogs up north and ran hare they would quit in less than four hours. However if you took the show bred dogs, with the straight legs, and ran hare they would quit in two hours. Staight legs alone don't mean didly. It takes a complete dog to handle all day running everyday. You have to breed for the conditions. Yours are probably great in Alabamain the conditions for which they were bred.

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