New Topics For The American Beagler??

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 1:30 pm

Just curious.
I find that The American Beagler does not offer a whole lot for the non hunter and it gets a bit boring. Can the publisher/writer do a little more outside of the realm of hunting and more for just fans of the breed? If not, does anyone know of a different magazine devoted to beagles?

Brian

Post by **Bev** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 11:07 pm

Your IP# tells me you're internet service originates from Milwaukee, WI, but I don't have any subscribers in Wisconsin named Brian. Do you actually take The American Beagler or are you posting for someone else?

Rick G · Post by **Rick G** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 12:00 pm

Try the magazine for tree huggers and poodle owners... Brian or whoever you are, The American beagler is a magazine for the beagle field trailer and the people who hunt with beagles (should both be the same dog) Your question just plain sucks! And it insults those of us who are trying to better the breed for hunting. The first rule in owning a hound is to be smarter than the hound. You my friend should stick to hamsters and fish and take your stupid remarks to the PETA web site, you'll fit right in. Maybe I'll submitt a story about how pretty my puppy is and the fun we have chasing butterflies in fields of flowers.[/quote]

Brian from Mi. · Post by **Brian from Mi.** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:13 pm

[quote="Rick G"]Try the magazine for tree huggers and poodle owners... Brian or whoever you are, The American beagler is a magazine for the beagle field trailer and the people who hunt with beagles (should both be the same dog) Your question just plain sucks! And it insults those of us who are trying to better the breed for hunting. The first rule in owning a hound is to be smarter than the hound. You my friend should stick to hamsters and fish and take your stupid remarks to the PETA web site, you'll fit right in. Maybe I'll submitt a story about how pretty my puppy is and the fun we have chasing butterflies in fields of flowers.[/quote][/quote]

pwill · Post by **pwill** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:19 pm

The way I see it is that, maybe Brian would like to see a section on beagles as pets or other uses for beagles. Beagles are great pets and not everyone has land to hunt on or resources to even learn how to hunt and enjoy dogs as we do in hunting them. I would like to see Brian do some research on other uses for beagles and send it to TAB and see if it fits in somewhere. Lets give people a chance to express there thoughts and then if they have other motives behind their statements then blast them. Just my thoughts.
Paul

Post by **Bev** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:02 pm

Anybody that's been with the magazine from the start knows I will cover anything appropriate about beagles. I've covered beagles in show, beagles in obedience and agility, beagles that basically just laid around and went to school with their gradeschool owners, etc.. I have no problem covering the aspects of beagling outside the hunting/trialing arena, but a lot of that material just doesn't come in. Folks are more than welcome to submit something for consideration.

Brian (or whoever you are) the "boring" comment was out in left field and didn't accomplish what you wanted.

(I have a feeling he won't respond again anyway)

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:07 pm

Brian, I've just always known that the American Beagler Mag focused on hunting and that if I wanted to read other articles on beagles, I'd have to look elsewhere. Unfortunately, there aren't many beagle publications out there. There's nothing wrong with suggesting that the mag expand its topics of coverage, but that's not the way to do it!

Rick G, just because some people don't hunt with beagles doesn't mean these hounds don't work (looking for termites, looking for explosives, search-and-rescue, the Beagle Brigade, etc) or compete (obedience, tracking, agility, etc). Furthermore, Brian's statement would have NO place on any PETA website. Maybe you aren't aware that PETA has gone to dog shows where people "show how pretty" their dogs are and released dogs from their crates/building to "liberate" them. PETA doesn't advertise it - because they need to have a support base from pet owners - but their ideal world doesn't have dogs use for hunting/sport OR for pets. If you go to their website, you can quickly find the quote: "Animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment."

Also, why should a beagle be both a hunting and a trailing dog? What's wrong with not having the time/money to trial, or just hunting for sport or necessity? And how does being interested in beagles beyond hunting/trialing suddenly make someone a tree-hugging poodle owner who should stick to hamsters and fish? Personally, I've known a lot more tree-hugging beagle owners than poodle owners. They seem to prefer hunting among fields and forests than concrete jungles - something about scenting problems on pavement, rabbits being scarce, laws against firing weapons in populated areas, etc.

ACOMEAU · Post by **ACOMEAU** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:37 pm

I'm with you Rick G. The TAB is what it is, and you read it for what it is. If the topics don't suit you, find another magezine, its that simple.

bowhunter59 · Post by **bowhunter59** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 5:59 pm

hey bev i would like to se some topic or reports from some down south stuff i know nothing about hare but i read thew stories anyhow and like them .but some good ole boy stories be nice a report maybe on hillshaker dogs by kenneth hill or

DarrinG · Post by **DarrinG** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 7:38 pm

Thats funny, I would like to se just the opposite of "Brian". I would love to see more and more HUNTING stories and tales.........

bowhunter59, your right.....us wild-eyed southern boys (and gals) need to "git wit it" and get more suff to Beverley so those yankee boys & gals wont be gettin so much coverage.......it's our own fault!

Post by **Bev** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:47 pm

All y'all from the south, wanting some input from the south are in for a TREAT in the June's issue!!! That's all I'm saying about it. I ain't fergot y'uns fer a minute.

Believe it or not, when I asked Butch to journal his hare hunting trips this winter in The American Beagler, it was with you guys in mind - and anyone else who would love to go hare hunting but can't. Kinda lets you live it through someone else's eyes. It's been a good season, huh? If we ever get to go, we'll be a bit more prepare for what to expect.

S.R.Patch · Post by **S.R.Patch** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 9:53 am

I hope this is what I think it is, Bev.!

I talked to the other one from the north last night and got the ok also.

The more you talk to them, the more old stories of hound gone bye they will recall. I would use these also, for it will give those with those hounds names in their pedigree an idea of what they were like.

All the best...Patch

Post by **Bev** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 10:37 am

Patch, no guessing allowed, but I'll tell you that this one is different. The one we talked about is in the works. Sometimes it takes a few months from inception to print, but I always hope it is well worth the wait.

Rick G · Post by **Rick G** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 12:52 pm

First off I didnt feel that "Brian" was asking a real question more so trying to discredit Bev. The reason she and Ralph started this magazine was to keep the trailers informed of the ARHA happenings after the comotion with the NKC and ARHA. My comment about the same dog being used for both trialing and hunting was a pro hunter comment, as i feel that a trial is a test of a hunting dog and a dog should be able to do both. Nothing to do with money or time, just want to hear that more dogs do both.
I also enjoy reading about beagles in show, finding bugs, humans, bombs etc. but that is not the reason I get the American Beagler. It's hunting trialing, vet talk, results, equipment, training articals, and dogs for sale,and stud. Im sure that those reasons apply to more than not. This magazine helps us to preserve our rights to run and hunt our hounds, and keeps our sport strong. It is also a very usefull tool in keeping us informed about new laws that try to be passed that can hurt our sport. (thanks to Bob Kane). So sorry if I sound nasty, but it is just that important to me to see a first and formost a"Hunting magazine". And that my friends is the reason I submitt stories to it.
For those of us who had to go through the "other beagle magazine" that was almost responsible for the death of a whole registry, this is what it is about. I sure as heck didnt forget about it.
For the readers who need more info on potty training, how to play catch, etc. There is a very good magazine called "Dog Fancy". It is dedicated to the "pet owner". It is a very good source of info of that nature.I would like to see their reaction if we asked them to publish some hunting stories? But for the other 95% of us this is why we are here, Hunting and Trailing.
I also would like to hear from the Southern folks about running swampers and what kind of hunting and running us yankees could expect if we were to head South. Bev the magazine is one of the best rabbit hunting/beagling magazines in the history of our sport! Keep up the great work! To all a happy blessed Easter holiday!

Robert W. Mccoy Jr · Post by **Robert W. Mccoy Jr** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:17 pm

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New Topics For The American Beagler??

New Topics For The American Beagler??

Amen Rick!Your just hilarious

vb

Well said Rick