Do Good Dogs Go To Heaven

[Mo. Beagler 5000]

APFFI-- I litterally laughed out loud after your post even though it was sarcasm meant towards me, it was pretty funny....

it doesn't make that post any less true though

[bucks better beagles]

Mo: If you go back to Salzer's original question, you will see that I gave my opinion ahead of yours. My opinion also was serious and considered. My responses have been also. I am thoughtful as to your degrading of me gives you a leg up to where you want to be. Jesus Christ used the word "hypocrite" 21 times in the King James version. Look it up. "Blessed are the Meek", the merciful, the clean of heart, the peacemakers and those that suffer persecution for Justice's sake. I got to qualify in there somewhere. I would say you definitely set me up as one who is persecuted? All I have done is state my sincere opinion, Sir.

[bucks better beagles]

APFII: If that isn't egging one on, I never saw it. Good Job. Subtle, ambiguous, low key. Yes, good job but I know when to respond.

[Mo. Beagler 5000]

you are sadly mistaken if you think the definition of biblical persecution is being told people don't like you because you make stupid comments... look that up Mr. Mensa.

your very first post--- "Saltzer, I am assuming you asked this question seriously. I see others think it is funny or ridiculous. There are many bible experts on this board who could do better than me, but I can't find anywhere where a dog's soul is mentioned. There will be no dogs is heaven. Noah took animals on the ark but I can't find where they were to be with him in heaven."

Pretty well thought out opinion and added to the discussion whether you believe what you wrote to be true or not... It added value to the topic...

This comment. "
Tell me this guys, if there are no dogs in heaven, there isn't any booze in heaven, there isn't any tv in heaven, no pretty women, I have had two wives, which one will I be with in heaven?, I didn't like my father or my sisters so why would I want to be with them, ...so why would I want to got there? All my friends will be in hell anyway. Just saying"

Added absolutely nothing to the topic-- it was meant to be a stupid childish remark--- which i suppose by baiting me in gave you what you wanted. That is the reason people on the board don't care for yo and so many voted for you to be off the board which you obviously have no intention of doing... so if you act like a jackass expect to get treated like one...

[gwyoung]

Mo Beagler, I think Buck's comment added quite a bit, several more posts were generated some of them yours.
Buck, You have to stay , everytime you post, some on here will be seething with rage, this is reason enough.

[Mo. Beagler 5000]

gw--I can generate posts all day long if thats the only qualification that makes a comment good is that its posted.. I could just slam my head into the keyboard and post something like this


yuyg87yglevb8uirbveripvb9p;evbee98 h didnt make a productive or smart comment but i posted so it has to be good???

I FULLY agree we need more posts and discussion but not just to pee people off or to stir the pot... if it happens so be it but to go looking for it is asinine...

[bucks better beagles]

Clarification Mo: I was on this thread before I wrote my "End Times" thread so I have a vested interest. I will be gone real soon but not as long as people such as yourself, comment about my character. You thought my comment was in jest. Absolutely not, meant every word of it. I have no fear of eternal death. Have been very close before and am ready now. Have no expectation of a better place. I have been in a comas twice before. Saw no lights and actually, it was kinda nice from what I can remember.

It is really too bad that you see my posts as stirring the pot. I never even read yours as long as my name wasn't mentioned.

So keep slinging the arrows and I will respond. Unsling your bow, live your life and you will hear no more of me. Hallelujah (used as a rejoicing for you and me)

[Salzer mtn]

SLzr-- notice how all of those things you listed that paul said were EXTERNAL.. nothing external can separate god from us but we can do it ourselves

" But we can do it ourselves" would fall under, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand St. John 10:28. The next statement would probably be, If i believed that, i would do whatever i wanted too and still go to heaven. Answer: I do, do what i want too. When God saved me he changed my want too. Therfore If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature (creation) old things have passed away; behold all things are become new 11 Cor 5:17. This is one of the evidences we have been saved, is that we have been changed. St. John 10: 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. Not only does God do heart surgery on a christian by taking away the old stoney heart and putting in a heart of flesh (tender heart) but he also does a surgery on our ears and feet. We hear His voice, we won't listen to the voice of a stranger and we walk as it pleases Him.

Mo Beagler, when i made the statement, " The next statement would probably be" in the above paragraph i was referring to what people come up with next as an answer when discussing eternal salvation or falling from grace. It was a statement in general, i did not mean, this is what you personally was going to come up with. I have discussed the topic of eternal salvation vs falling from grace with a lot of people and the statement of " If i believed that i would live like i wanted too or i would do whatever i wanted too" is one of their come back statement's. There are a lot of denominations in this world but they all fall under saved by grace or saved by works. A lot of people believe you are saved by grace but kept by your own works. The bible say in Rom 11:6 And if it be by grace, then is it no more of works: other wise grace is no more grace. But if it be by works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. Grace and works are like water and oil than cannot mix together and blend. I have learned by experience that the doctrines of grace are taught to a person from God, through the word, by the Holy Spirit.

[gwyoung]

salzer mtn, Many of your great evangelists and preachers preach as you and I believe. Most notably is Billy Graham, Mr. Graham believes in the eternal security of the blood bought believer , but who would consider him an authority on the matter , Certainly not all teachers at bible colleges to them he is wrong and perhaps they could steer this obviously mistaken man in the true ways of the Bible. Perhaps he could somehow be as enlightened as they are and learn something about God's word from them!

[Salzer mtn]

When a person is saved do you think God forgives him or her of their past sins only or past and present sins only or past present and future sins ?

[bucks better beagles]

Saltzer: As regards to your question as to whether a blind person dreams in color or not, I think it is a moot point. Most research indicates or at least, tends to indicate, that no one dreams in color whether blind or sighted.

[Salzer mtn]

Saltzer: As regards to your question as to whether a blind person dreams in color or not, I think it is a moot point. Most research indicates or at least, tends to indicate, that no one dreams in color whether blind or sighted.

That was not the question i ask about the blind person. I ask, if a person is born blind can they see anything when they dream. People that have eye sight when they dream they see people, they hear voices in their subconcience but if a person has never saw anyone or anything what would their dreams be like. Also a person that is both blind and deaf from birth like the late Helen Keller she could hear no voices or see any forms in her dreams. I cannot even imagine something like this.

[bucks better beagles]

Sorry for the misinterpretation. That is an even better question. I know of at least one science major on here and maybe he can chime in but from what I can find, tested people who are born blind have been able to document images but not in the sense that sighted people do. They do indeed have auditory dreams but anything else is indistinct or blurred.

[gwyoung]

At the risk of being called a know it all - The mind will form images that it has seen. If your other senses form an image in your mind of what a person looks like your mind will of then seen and will reproduce this image. If your sense of hearing, smell. touch, etc; produces an exact image of what a person really looks like then your mind will reproduce this correct image of a Human in your dreams as this is your " idea" of what a person looks like.
Salzer mtn. When a person is Saved he is forgiven of all of his sins as far as Salvation is concerned. But this goes for Salvation and Salvation alone, Most have a hard time of understanding how the Blood of Jesus can cover future sins on this matter, They fail to take into account that when Jesus paid for your sins on the cross some 2000 years ago, all of your sins were future, you weren't even born yet!

[Salzer mtn]

Mr. Young that was good answers to both questions.