Speed verses Medium speed with line control

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Incahoots
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Post by Incahoots »

If your dog is a fast and accurate as you say he is I bet the reason you solo is so you can here a good race. A fast competitive dog will blow up a pack faster than anything if they are super fast and close. I have seen hound that go out by themselves on the worst condition and can run smooth and easy with no breakdowns but you put another two or three dogs in there with them and they look completely crazy....
Actually, that's not true. He just got HBCH in UKC format in 3 hunts at 1 year old this past weekend. UKC is one of the faster formats and he ran in big hunts not backyard hunts so he ran against pretty good competition. He made some small mistakes mainly due to age and pressure but what dog runs perfect everytime out? Being only 1yr old he has alot of time to just get even better. I'd say in 2 days to tie for first the first day and win first the second day is pretty consistant. He's just a well rounded dog good on strikes, speed, and line control. Solo time makes them run their race vs a pack race when in competition, imo. I like them to honor dogs and pack but be independant in the pack. I'm not going to label all fast dogs will run like him cause that's just not the case as every fast dog doesn't blow up every turn neither.

BTW I've seen slower dogs mess up many of packs with faster dogs in it. Still no med speed dog will circle a rabbit faster then my dogs even if they had a break down they have great check work to pick it right back up. Those baby rabbits are great for teaching a smart dog to stick checks hard. :D
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Post by lonewolf »

id like to post my opinion,,,,first im not a trialer,,,,just a gun hunter , i would rather take a slow kill any day over a fast miss,,,,,i guess what im saying here is why blow up a good race,,,,everybody i have hunted with that had fast dogs where very impatient,,,,,,thats why they dont like med speed dogs always in a hurry,,,,,,NOW,,,,,,,,for all you trialers that said line and check work has nothing to do with it,,,,,,,how are your dogs placing in trials,,,,,if you got a dog that swings out 25 feet and a dog swings 5 feet and picks up the track and the NOT SO IMPORTANT CHECK OR LINE CONTROL DOG,,,,all they are doing is me toing,,,,,,


this is my thought,,,,,,,if you think line control or check work is not important get out of trialing,,,,,because it means everything to gundogs,,,,,,,,,
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Post by BeaglerJay »

I like a dog with alot of foot and alot of line control.

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Post by Roy Pasmore »

After reading all the posts on this subject. I think if you love the sound of A pack of beagles running A rabbit You or not worried about what dog comes across A line !st. Only if he slots in and doe`s not enterupt the packs study pressure on the rabbit. Circleing the rabbit over and over with as few break downs as possible. This to me is the true sport of beagling not watching dogs beeing over competive about wonting the frount to the point they over run constantly and have to break down and find the track again doing this over and over. Just and old man who loves good pack work.
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Post by james wright »

speed and line control the ultimate dog. i have one dog out off 8 that is the ultimate dog. but there is a price i pay because he will blow the other dogs out so soloing is good for him but i feel like i need to pack him to prepare for trail in may. keep the board going it is good to take all the different opinion to help yourself
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