what shows you brains in a hound?

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:30 am

1. Smart dogs have kennel manners. (no excessive barking, fighting ect.)

2. Learn how to handle on a leash by 12 weeks and all basic commands.

3. Smart dogs learn how to fetch by week 13. (the last 2 are standards were developed by the US military on whether a dog is trainable or not)

4. While in the field work hard, hunt hard, but are aware of where their master is.

5. Smart hounds are easily broken from trash, or do not even try offgame.

6. Can tell when it is time to go hunting by what I am wearing or carrying.

7. Could do tricks if trained to do so. Mostly for the one dog that gets to stay in the house.

8. Smart dogs to not pee or cr*p in the food bowl.

9. Smart dogs are easily crate trained or house trained.

10. Smart dogs do not bite the hand that feeds them.

Do not get me wrong you can still have a fine hound for hunting that does not have these traits. But an exceptional dog does both.

JIMMIE ABSHIRE · Post by **JIMMIE ABSHIRE** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:54 am

True story , good friend of mine had a MALE named sparky, when sparky
was 6 months could run and circle his own rabbit with ease. Well we took ol sparky out in the season by himself . As he was running he shut down , we could no longer hear him when we went to the loss point , he was barking underground , figuring out he had went underground and was in a big enuff hole to run the rabbit thru his tunnel after about 20 mins we found the hole , about that time rabbit pops out like a water fountain, with sparky in hot pursuit. We looked at each other and died laughing out loud.
I will never forget that moment. Same dog (before shock collars ) we would run down deer chases and cut them off and pretty much beat them to death. As we did that ol sparky would whip em also 1 by 1, never seen him go on deer run but sure loved to tell on everyone else. When you unsnapped him to go run he would head toward ya in full stream and jump into your arms, till he died. Good ol dog . Rch Codys Sharp Sparky.
Rip. ol boy.

db215 · Post by **db215** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:24 am

Jimmie,
Was Sparky a littermate to Cody's Sharp Mikie? I got to see Mikie run in Indiana one time and he was a great dog! Just wondering. dboman

JIMMIE ABSHIRE · Post by **JIMMIE ABSHIRE** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:35 am

Father to daughter cross , Codys sharp mikie-Codys sharp cindy=sparky

db215 · Post by **db215** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:24 pm

thanks for the information Jimmie, I can see why he would be a good smart dog! dboman

ANTHONY KERR · Post by **ANTHONY KERR** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:10 pm

I own a female now that has never been a trash runner. She comes back and puts her paw on your knee. I shocked two of her pack mates for running off game. When they returned to the logging road she growled and jumped on them both. I have seen her do this twice. I consider her to be smart but she wolfs down food and then coughs some up later to re eat. She also craps on top of the dog house. The dog house trick may be smart though because the roof is slanted and most of the time the torpedo ends up in the back pen with the almost broke trash runners.

diamondp · Post by **diamondp** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:13 pm

When they bring me my slippers .

siriusbeagles · Post by **siriusbeagles** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:36 pm

My smart dog is an occasional trash runner and has more bad tricks up his paw than good but he does one thing that makes me think he is truly smart, well at least smarter than my husband. Dog will stand at back door which is next to the bed, to be let out. When husband gets up to let dog out, Dog gets warm spot in bed next to me. Now which one do you all think is smarter...swear happens every night.

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:40 pm

Your husband dont fall for that every night.
He just dont want to lay next to you.

bill (flint river ) · Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:43 pm

...............thats was funny.............bought feel out of the chair.lol

Moore Beagles · Post by **Moore Beagles** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:56 pm

I had a pair of pups about 15+ years ago, that would ride in my Landcruiser with me to go hunting. I would stop at a Dunkin Donuts for coffee, and the boys learned if they layed on the horn, I would hurry up.
They got real good at it, and I couldn't stop anywhere very long without them getting in some hurry up blows from the horn.
One male had a real good nose, and the other had the brains, he would run to the other side of the brush pile to get at the rabbit going out the other side. He was a real brat, I could hardly ever get him to go in after the rabbit, he acted like he was the shooter. Eventually he trained me to go in the brush, with the other dog, and to make my coffee stops real quick! Gregg

TallPaul · Post by **TallPaul** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:43 am

A hound that can keep a run going even with the faultest dogs. Even these hounds know/learn when another hound as short comings. The ultimate would be a hound that would be able to hunt different quary and know when to hunt the specified game and not any others when you went. hunt rabbits for you when your rabbit hunting and not bobcat. Hunt coon at night and not rabbits. Hunt bear and not get killed.

Post by **Bev** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:55 pm

TallPaul wrote: The ultimate would be a hound that would be able to hunt different quary and know when to hunt the specified game and not any others when you went. hunt rabbits for you when your rabbit hunting and not bobcat. Hunt coon at night and not rabbits. Hunt bear and not get killed.

At the risk of being ridiculed again (lol) there are some that come very, very close to that, but it takes a hunter who hunts all game, and that hunter has a good partnership with his dog. Here is a dog who has at least one win and some placements in Large Pack on Hare, is a Grand Beagle Fox Champion, is leased to deer hunters (who are allowed to hunt with dogs) and has run 2 bears to the gun. (yes, he has been run in the wild, too). I believe he is around three years old:

I believe it was Frank Reese who said "any dog worth having can run rabbit all day for you and then run fox for you that night". (or something like that, lol) If I've misquoted him, I apologize for my own "old-age memory", but I know one of the old-timers said it, and lived it. Frank Reese was of the Gay line of dogs (which, in my own opinion, also had good conformation and coloring).

Running several types of game with one dog is certainly not a new practice, but rather an old one that's been almost dropped. I would think it is something that must be fairly fine-tuned in the training process, much like the fine-tuning involved with breeding and raising beagles that are fit to both hunt and show. These folks will probably always be in the minority, IMO, because they have so many qualities to monitor, and not everyone is cut out to do it.

sammiller03 · Post by **sammiller03** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:41 pm

I know my dogs are smart becouse they listen to me cause they know if they dont things will happen .. when my wife lets them out there gone no amount of yelling will bring them back.. shes a pushover..

full circle kennel · Post by **full circle kennel** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:09 pm

a month ago i gave away a walker coonhound, 2.5 yrs old, raised him from a pup. i always thought this dog was just plain dumb< reason i gave him away> went to check up on him tonight to make sure he was being taken care of. this stupid hound didn't even recognize me! almost bit me! i was shocked; its only been a month? i sure am glad the old man likes him as a pet...