Solo, The Amazing Cure

[S.R.Patch]

Chap.. did I say something bad, or anything at all about your 7 year old?? My junk pack only caught two hare last winter and another when Norwester was here last Feb. and we had 12 dogs down. Sh!t eaters got lucky!!!

Budd, can you not see that you just did the same thing and made this post "all about you"?
I didn't read anywhere in Swing's post where he said, "Budd"...

ps... Someone needs to start a post about, "hound feeding off of other hounds", "How to know if you have the complete hound" & the famous, "the pack ain't been the same since ole Betty Lou died (otherwise known as "holes in the cheese")"...

[chapkosbeagles]

well said patch hole in the cheese I love it
Casey(rookie) come run hare. find the holes in that hound u will only find it when u go to catch him. U will go broke as my dogs will die before they quit. Budd
No u said nothing I just believe hounds that always have been packed. Will not run as good as they would if soloed. Send ur best male to me for a month of solo time and I garentee u see improvement.

I was just useing that old crap eater of mine as a exsample. When he comes thew in the snow the track is inbetween his ears

[Casey Harner]

I'm sure hare will challenge any pack but I find it funny how you always call ppl out on their dogs. Don't know when but I am going to come up to your area and hopefully get a chance to watch and run with you. Don't know when but you can bet on that, I'll be there with good dogs and a video camera.

[chapkosbeagles]

All I can say
My hounds back up my mouth
If they dident I wouldent say crap

[bucks better beagles]

You go Chappy. If they are half as tough as you, they are tough enough!

[warddog]

I love running at least 2 dogs at a time and prefer 3-5 just for the extra music. I think soloing holds value but I personally don't have time to spend soloing my dogs much so I don't. I'm also not kennel blind and recognize my dog's faults even when in a pack. I can tell who is doing what in most cases just by listening to them although I do spend time chasing them around a little just to see who is doing what. I took out a Sadie and Hemi last week and in the beginning Hemi was putting it to Sadie but by the end she was whipping his butt. I could tell in both cases who was doing the bulk of the work just by what I was hearing. Something I am very happy to say is Hemi is very good with his mouth and I can tell when he is getting little scent just by how infrequent he barks if he's running second. I also like to watch Sadie verify a track with her own nose before she barks in on the track too. Most of all I like to watch them interact with each other and work together. It's funny to see Sadie wait for a few confident barks before she'll hark in to him and he does the same.

I been reading this thread and knew I better stay out of it as I'm over twenty, thirty, fourty or fifty and never made a field champion in my life so I don't know a thing about hounds. I do however agree with Bunnyblaster and never did understand why rabbit dogs had to be ran behind to know what your dog was doing. I never have done that when rabbit hunting nor did I do so when I competition coon hunted when the hounds couldn't be seen but only heard!

[Newt]

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I been reading this thread and knew I better stay out of it as I'm over twenty, thirty, fourty or fifty and never made a field champion in my life so I don't know a thing about hounds. I do however agree with Bunnyblaster and never did understand why rabbit dogs had to be ran behind to know what your dog was doing. I never have done that when rabbit hunting nor did I do so when I competition coon hunted when the hounds couldn't be seen but only heard![/quote]
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If I have to run behind a dog and hold my breath waiting for a mistake, I'll find another hobby. The number of times a dog or pack can circle a rabbit with minimal breakdowns is evident from the point at which it was jumped.

[NorWester1]

Budd that 7 year old dog has cought more hare than most packs and I dont think he would have with out the solo time,as it makes a dog smoother most the time.

How many hare do ur pack catch? Or I should say how offten or if they catch them at all

How many hare have you caught with that hound Chapko?

Here's the thing.......... I have no doubt soloing a dog will make him better .... when he's running solo. But pack him back up again and he'll become the hound he was and has always been in the pack. Or worse.......now he won't honor his packmates and thinks he's the only hound in the woods.
I see this the opposite of the solo guys. A pack shows you the real dogs......what they can do under pressure when the chips are on the line.
It's much easier to run a dog solo than it is to get a smooth running pack in my opinion.

[eddywilliams]

I disagree Norwester believe when a dog is solod they gain confidence and independence they learn way more alone .They will be the dog driving the front and tking the line when the rest bobble if they want to hunt alone fine with me cause they will be the dog finding the bunny .You guys can have that pack running I am forced to run this way now due to weather but soon as it clears it is ALONE TIME

[NorWester1]

Eddie, I've never seen a dog that cleaned up running solo and stayed that way once dropped back in with the pack. A least not without limited exposure to pack running followed by lots more solo time.
If you enjoy running a pack it's better just to find a hound that doesn't need cleaning up in the first place.

That driving the front and taking the line you mention .... can be a problem, especially when conditions aren't favorable.
Now compound that by having every hound in the pack a "solo individualist" and you have a train wreck in the making.

[madcatter]

I agree with norwester on this.....
I dont understand the concept of learning on its own, if anything its disabilities will be more obvious while soloing and probably will stay that way.now pack it up and a new bunch of problems will arise...whats the cure...nothing.some cant be helped by anything
ya cant polish a turd

[Topfuel John]

My opinion is this;take a young hound out and solo and pack,but to me solo brings the best out of that dog and when you put it back in the pack it runs with more confidence and it seems to handle the pack better by getting more checks and jumps!With more age helps too,but it never hurts to solo a young hound,jmo!

[bwe007]

correct me if i'm wrong but beagles are pack animals. all K9 species are. look at the mess you've started jim.

[eddywilliams]

To each his own but you dont know what you really have unless he does it alone . imo

[Casey Harner]

I done tons of solo when I had only one dog. I think Moe got tired of hunting alone as much as I did. I rather run brace or a trio. Nothing beats a good pack of three hounds pounding.