Little pack judges Question

[Big Dog]

The jump occurs when the rabbit is flushed from it's set up(bed). This can only occur at the beginning of a cast or after dead track is called on another rabbit and the dogs are re-casted into the field. There can only be one set of strike and jump points given on each rabbit also. If a dog catches a rabbit when it flushes it from it's set up or sitting in the bed then he will get jump points for it, or strike and jump points if he was the first dog to actually strike in.

Big dog

[Alabama John]

Lynn
That was the best post you ever posted!!! Ha ha I agree with you.

Swamper
Just because I like fast dogs doesn't mean they are the best. Yours run a little slower, but far more of the track. You have real good dogs. Most folks on here would rather have yours than mine.

[pine top]

big dog a hound does not have to give mouth to get strike and jump pionts if it caches the rabbit before a dog gets put on the clock. ms state rep l/p jerry carter

[MasonsBeagles]

You mean there are rules. At our club we always just draw straws, throw darts, pitch quaters or take turns on who wins a hunt. Thought that was the way it was done. Man learn something new everyday.

[Big Dog]

To Pine Top - You are right, I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying. I was covering it from the scenario where another dog has actually struck in and is on the clock, and another dog in close proximity jumps and catches the rabbit. In that case the dog that caught the rabbit would only get 30 points and the dog that was on the clock would get 10 points for the strike. If no dog is on the clock and a dog catches a rabbit without opening then he would get the strike and jump points. We are saying the same thing, I just went around the world to say it.(LOL)

Big Dog

[kjohns]

But the rule talks about the begining of the chase, not the beginning of each cast. So what constitutes the begining of the chase? If Dog A strikes but hasn't moved the line and that constitutes the beginning of the chase, then dog b jumps the rabbit. Per the rules Dog B could not be given jump points. So is the strike the beginning of the chase or when the dogs begin to move the line the beginning of the chase.

[rik]

its not a strike unless they have made a line with it..to get a positive strike they must show me a line not just bark!and got 3 minutes to do that ..but this is straying way off the original post!

[Blu Tick Beagler]

The book doesn't say anything about a "line" I hear this a lot. It says produce a rabbit. I saw a judge minus a hound after the handles and the judge saw a rabbit come out of the same briar patch as the hounds, but couldn't run it due to bad conditions. The judge said they didn't show him a line. If I was judging the cast it would have been a + 10.....

[swing]

They never said whether the dogs A B C were males or female?
You guys are getting to technical.
Thats one reason I just hunt my dogs now.
If it were up to me Id say go judge the dogs on over all performance for 2 hours and bring back the best dog that hour.
How many have heard the judge after a cast say, boys this dog here is the winner but he wasnt the best dog in the cast. Now I see a problem with that.
How many have got beat by a dog that was just meandering around the whole hour and rabbits were sitting tight and this dog wonders over to a bush and urinates on it and just so happened he urinated on a rabbit and got a strike jump for it and won the cast.. And there was a dog in the cast just tearing up the brush the whole hour and got nothing fo it.
Well fire away, but that is my 2 cents worth.
I know you have to start somewhere, I say start with good judges ( houndsmen)

[pine top]

BIG DOG
YOU ARE RIGHT
KJOHNS
dog a is struck in dog b jumps a rabbit dog a gets strike points dog bgets jump points the chase is any time a rabbit is produced .

jerry carter

[pine top]

swing
i have run dogs in ARHA LP since 2000 from indiana to fla, tx to ga and the one thing that is the same every where i go are the rules in little packe thay stay the same .

but you frist have to start with a good rabbit dog we all now that it,s proble 40% of what it takes to place the other 60% is luck the time of day you draw out the running grounds you get and the abellaty of the judge to see what dog get,s the check , strike , or jump how thike is the running grounds all of this is the luck factor in what we play at there are good judges every where i,ve been just my two bit,s worth LOL

JERRY CARTER

[tnbeagleman]

Now , the real reason for posting this question!! How many looked at your rule book ?

[Big Dog]

I didn't on thta one, that was an easy one, there are a whole lot of others that I would have to pull the rule book out on.(LOL)

Big Dog

[kjohns]

Thanks, Pine Top. That clears it up. So the beginning of the chase occurs when the judge has determined the dogs have produced, however that may happen.

I didn't have to pull the rule book out on the original question. I knew that one off the top of my head because I always thought it ironic that LP always wants to promote a hound that runs as if to overtake its game, but no points are awarded when it does.

Rik, It is a strike as soon as the dog barks 3 times. Whether it's minus or plus is still to be determined but it is a strike.

Blue Tick, I agree w/ you. The rules say they have to produce a rabbit in the judges opinion. There was a big discussion on this about a year ago on this board, and I couldn't believe the amount of people that said they would minus a dog even after seeing the rabbit.

[bowhunter59]

well yes i did mean a positive strike when it made a line ..if the judge seen the rabbit should have been a strike..